So, what reasons do we have, as of now, to shoot &/or kill any Thargoids we encounter?

Countless destroyed human ships floating in several by human populated systems, damaged by thargoid weapon systems. Do you call that accidental hugging?
Peaceful aliens should be able to find more inteligent solutions to interact with their neighbourhood.
They dont try to comunicate, else than collecting our pilots nomatter of dead or allive and collecting all alloys they can get.
They dont react on any form of comunication.

i am sill looking for good arguments dont using these rockets.

Here's the thing; The only thing we can prove for sure is that Thargoids are attacking ships that are holding items of Thargoid origin and refuse to drop them, and ships that they perceive to be hostile. If an innocent but trigger-happy adventurer gets interdicted and opens fire first thing they do, then that's on them for eventually becoming a floating piece of scrap in an NHSS. A human overreacting the same way to another human would meet the same end. That's self defense. If someone's collecting Thargoid sensors for personal gain, clearly without having asked the Thargoid for permission to use their thingy for whatever, then again, that's on them for meddling with objects they know nothing about, and have no right to claim for themselves.

We know that plenty of pilots, both players and NPCs, have been plucking Thargoid objects out of their natural habitat and trading them back and forth for a long time now. What if a Thargoid sensor or probe has a similar function to, for instance, a human nav beacon? What if an alien just pops out of nowhere and starts picking up our nav beacons and running away with them? We players wouldn't care much, but presumably the normal citizens of the Elite galaxy, those without discovery scanners, rely on these things for basic navigation between worlds. That'd wreak havoc on our infrastructure! And let's imagine that they're not trivial to produce, that each beacon maybe holds important information that can't be easily replaced (or perhaps information we can't let potential enemies gain access to), then it'd become a top priority to get them back. So we find them, floating in strange, unknown shells in space, and we tell the shell to let go of our thingy, and some of them do so we pick them up and fly back home, but some of them don't, so we shoot them open so we can collect our thingy. I mean sensor- I mean nav beacon.

By the way, you know who else has been blowing up humans ships to collect Thargoid sensors?

Pretty much every player who was involved with this whole mystery before we found the "UA shell" around Merope. And then, again, with the "UP" situation. We are, ourselves, far from above destroying an innocent convoy to get at these things, and they're not even intrinsically important to us outside of being fun and mysterious objects we don't understand! Who knows what meaning they carry to the Thargoids? If they need them back by any means necessary for a greater cause, then perhaps all these human casualties are objectively a drop in the galactic ocean compared to what consequences might come, otherwise.

Those military convoys, by the way, the ones that we first encountered the Thargoid sensors and probes in and then proceeded to assault in the name of science? They were being escorted by Federal ships. And which ships have we been finding countless wrecks of, damaged by Thargoid weapons, before this "return" became public knowledge and more factions became involved? Federal ships. It's not farfetched at all to assume they were only destroyed as a consequence of stealing Thargoid technology from under their... mandibles. So maybe the Thargoids did in fact open fire first. It's a perfectly reasonable assumption. But it may have had reasons, and even if some Thargoids have been shooting humans, not all of them do.

Think of it like this: If they are intelligent or patient or reasonable enough to deal with us on a case by case basis, never judging a commander by his comrades' actions, even if just sometimes holding their fire despite having lost allies or family to humans like us... then why should we not do the same?
 
If the Thargoids didn't want to fight, they wouldn't. They are perfectly capable of avoiding action, even avoiding detection. They've been doing both for a long time. The artifacts and probes we've picked up certainly aren't worth fighting over, those are trifles.

They think they have an interest in fighting us, or they'd just go on ignoring/avoiding us.

Also, remember the history. They first met us with blind aggression. If they don't expect to be greeted with distrust and hostility, they aren't as smart as their tech suggests.

If they wanted peace, they'd be trying to establish peaceful contact.

It would be interesting to consider where this "history" is coming from. So far what we do know about thargoids history is only what superpowers wanted to tell us.
 
If the Thargoids didn't want to fight, they wouldn't. They are perfectly capable of avoiding action, even avoiding detection. They've been doing both for a long time. The artifacts and probes we've picked up certainly aren't worth fighting over, those are trifles.

They think they have an interest in fighting us, or they'd just go on ignoring/avoiding us.

Also, remember the history. They first met us with blind aggression. If they don't expect to be greeted with distrust and hostility, they aren't as smart as their tech suggests.

If they wanted peace, they'd be trying to establish peaceful contact.

How can you say they aren't worth fighting over. We don't know just how precious these items are for the Thargoids because we aren't Thargoids. They are very important pieces of technology to the thargoids and if I saw some species carrying important pieces of my technology around in their holds, I'd wondered how they got them and I'd want them back.

And as far as the ED history goes we don't know who met them first I believe, and we def. don't know who fired the first shots. And to at least put some of what humans do into them, they are possibly taking humans for study to better understand us for peaceful reasons. We always take creatures and study them, then return them.

And perhaps because of the way the see Humans react they don't want to try and establish peace just yet, they are perhaps waiting to see just what the rest of us are like just like we are waiting to see what the rest of them are like.
 
I still maintain there is an unknown party involved here, be it another Thargoid faction (perhaps with different markings), or a new alien race - or even possibly Guardians that are no longer dead.

Until I see something that proves they shoot first... then they should be studied and see if they could be potential allies.
 
I still maintain there is an unknown party involved here, be it another Thargoid faction (perhaps with different markings), or a new alien race - or even possibly Guardians that are no longer dead.

Until I see something that proves they shoot first... then they should be studied and see if they could be potential allies.
Yup. Until I see a Thargoid invasionary fleet show up out of the blue, and destroy a fleet that was carrying zero Thargoid related items, then I have no reason to shoot them. Everything we've directly observed from the Thargoids, has been actions of curiosity, scavenging, (with the vast majority of scavenged items being their own property) and self-defense. They've only attacked after commanders ignored their warnings to stay away. So far, the only alarming behavior, has been their scooping of escape pods. For what purpose they're retrieving surviors from wrecks, we cannot say as of now. It may be of nefarious & malevolent intentions, curiosity, or even in the sake of research as to better understand us so that they may learn how to communicate with us.
 
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What we should be doing is studying their technology so we can use it against ourselves. yet to see a thargoid vs thargoid war..... they are more peaceful than us :D
 
Its hard to believe it but this behaviour exists in the world.
Sympathisers. Traitors.

Before we had Aegis weapons the Goids would approach scan and most would display aggression of some kind. Our tech was no threat to them so they had no cause for concern. Goids are scum, burn them all.
 
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