Astronomy / Space Sol System: Planet 9 was found!!

[PanPiper.]

A few facts,it's not discovered or found,only predicted from observations related to gravitation effects on large kuiper belt objects.
Predicts where it 'COULD' be.
Future observations with better telescopes in a decade will prove or disprove it.

Put aside the paper was published by one who helped demote Pluto to a dwarf planet,might discover another ninth planet himself.

His prediction of its position and elliptical orbit does fit into many myths of planet X or Cthulhu

 

[Varrag]

It's interesting, but I don't think there is an actual find to speak of yet. For all we know, strange orbit of Sedna may be explained by perturbance from some passing star or even with the presence of Sun's low mass stellar companion (Nemesis theory).

 

[Bran Tse Mallory]

Didn't see this thread until Mr Maynard pointed me in the right direction, thank-you sir...

NASA Has said that it may well have found the 9th planet in our solar system - I know there are still a lot of people who consider Pluto a real planet but that is a whole different PPV WWE event.

http://www.sciencemag.org/news/2016/...n-solar-system

I do not want to talk about the science behind this but rather a more pressing issue.

Why is this not in the game yet?

The news was released yesterday and I think that is more than enough time for a developer to have taken a few minutes to add a simple blue ball to our solar system. This kind of shoddy workmanship is bringing the entire game down faster than the sky could fall. They even say it should look like Neptune so just copy that but make it rotate the other way so you don't get called out for using a place holder or even just a sign saying "Planet IX Soon™" would be ok.

How could this not have been predicted?

With all the talk about Planet X and or Nibiru that has been in the press and all over youtube, so many intelligent people make video's about stuff they have heard on the subject, I would of though it was obvious in the design stage to have included another planet to represent the possibility of it's existence!

The solution?

Well you have a few hours before I head home, I expect there to be an update to the game which adds the possible new world along with a raft of missions involving the new planet and it's obvious but undiscovered moons. While you are at it maybe you should also add the extra red dwarf sun which another youtube video has informed me exists...

Fun and games aside, it's a fantastic discovery and reminds me of just how amazing space can be! Also given it's proposed orbit could a planet like this be modeled within the game?

 

[wstephenson]

When I heard about this, my first thought was "If FD add a planet to a system in Stellar Forge, how does this affect other, procedurally derived bodies in the system?" Or do authored assets coexist with PG assets and don't affect the simulated system via orbits, gravity wells etc.?

 

[Winterwalker]

When I heard about this, my first thought was "If FD add a planet to a system in Stellar Forge, how does this affect other, procedurally derived bodies in the system?" Or do authored assets coexist with PG assets and don't affect the simulated system via orbits, gravity wells etc.?

The article about the (statistical) "discovery" of planet nine, suggests it might be an erratic ..

knocked out of the planet-forming region near the sun. Slowed down by gas, the planet settled into a distant elliptical orbit, where it still lurks today.

How you model that .. planetary pinball .. I sure aint sure.

 

[Lave1990]

The article about the (statistical) "discovery" of planet nine, suggests it might be an erratic ..

knocked out of the planet-forming region near the sun. Slowed down by gas, the planet settled into a distant elliptical orbit, where it still lurks today.

How you model that .. planetary pinball .. I sure aint sure.

Sounds like Dave Lister has been playing billiards with planets again...

 

[Winterwalker]

Sounds like Dave Lister has been playing billiards with planets again...

" Orbital Resonance .. has topped it. That's what she's done, topped it!
It's a felt-ripper! That planet is off the table, and into somebody's pint of beer! "
...... Dave "Cinzano Bianco (once he's on the table you can't get rid of him)" Lister.

How about a sweepstake on what colour the new planet might be, blue alert?

 

[ephil]

Maybe Canonn could help find it.

 

[Winterwalker]

Maybe Canonn could help find it.

Advanced Discovery Scanner? (is it expected to be in range of a Basic or Intermediate?)

 

[sirius42]

Planet Nine from Outer Space?

That was a good one haha

If it wasnt posted before here some link.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6poHQ2h00ZA

 

[Haleks]

Geez, I just found out that one of the guys (Mike Brown) who made the announcement is the one who discovered Quaoar, Sedna and Makémaké...
But even those bodies aren't in ED; I doubt we'll see that 9th planet ingame, even if it's confirmed. :/

 

[amadeus1171]

I have seen Dave Lister. And shot him down. And collected the bounty.

 

[barcode]

It's interesting, but I don't think there is an actual find to speak of yet. For all we know, strange orbit of Sedna may be explained by perturbance from some passing star or even with the presence of Sun's low mass stellar companion (Nemesis theory).

I thought the WISE infra-red survey ruled that possibility out?

 

[Asp Explorer]

I thought the WISE infra-red survey ruled that possibility out?

Go to infra-red people - look sharp!

Maybe they don't show up on infra-red at all

 

[Sapyx]

I agree with the "pics or it didn't happen" sentiment. You don't "find planets" by calculating a probability of existence - you "find a planet" by pointing a telescope and finding a moving blob of light.

Back in the 1840s, they noticed that Uranus' orbit wasn't quite behaving as they expected and they speculated a more remote, undiscovered planet was causing the perturbations. Within the decade, they'd discovered Neptune, sitting right where the boffins had calculated it should be. And it was the guy with the telescope who is considered to have found it, not the guy who calculated that it "should exist".

They then looked for perturbations in Neptune, and found some, so began to search for Planet IX. After decades of fruitless searching, they finally found Pluto - only to determine that Pluto was far too small to have caused the perturbations. Eventually they concluded that the "perturbations" were actually caused by faulty measurements.

Another historical example that comes to mind, in this particular case: 17th and 18th century geographers were convinced that a "Great South Land" must exist, because without it the map of the world would be asymmetrical, and an asymmetrical world would be A Bad Thing, for [reasons]. So they spent years searching for a Great South Land. But guess what? There isn't a Great South Land, the world really is asymmetrical, and it doesn't fall apart or explode because of it.

It is yet to be seen whether this new postulated "Planet IX" is a genuine reflection of gravitational phenomena, or a phantom caused by bad data gathering or poor deduction.

 

[Varrag]

I thought the WISE infra-red survey ruled that possibility out?

Yeah WISE didn't find anything up to certain distance (can't remember exact number). There is still a chance, albeit after this infrared survey very small, that there is something on greater distance.