Sol's True North Star - On a FULL TANK!

Yup, Yours truly, galactic fool, transporter of goods and people, Novice Bounty Hunter and all around good guy Commander Broome has taken the Wanderlust, his Spiffily Engineered DBX, the with a 41Ly range on Full tank, all the way to the famous Wregoe TV-L C24-0 System.

Maybe not much of an achievement, for all you 65k Beagle to Colonia to Sag A and 6 months in the void types, but it means something to me. And I managed to keep a full tank for most of the way.

Pics:

http://imgur.com/xq9zgJD
 
Maybe not much of an achievement, for all you 65k Beagle to Colonia to Sag A and 6 months in the void types, but it means something to me. And I managed to keep a full tank for most of the way.

Never understate your achievements, for they are Yours and no one else can claim them even should they duplicate them.
 
Good man. All trips are good trips.
Indeed, all trips are good. But I don't think that we've discussed the concept of "Sol's true north star" here and the claimed example is from elsewhere.

The idea of "true north" is very much dependant on what frame of reference you are considering. Earth's rotational axis and, indeed, the whole Solar System is not remotely aligned with the galactic plane - just consider the position of Polaris relative to Sol in the ED MW! So if you are considering north in either Sol's or Earth's terms then our terrestrial understanding of the term is a long way distant. Stating that Wregoe TV-L C24-0 is "north" of Sol doesn't make much sense to me. It simply doesn't apply in any Earth or Sol reference of the concept of "north".

I'm of the opinion that the relative flatness of the MW gives us a clear galactic plane and that therefore it makes more sense to say that you are either "above" or "below" it. Granted that those terms are entirely arbitrary in that they could be reversed, but the ED MW has positive and negative co-ordinates so it is reasonable to consider that positive is "above" and negative "below". That means that Wregoe TV-L C24-0 is more correctly "the furthest most direct star above Sol". Not as snappy perhaps but more accurate IMHO.

I much prefer using the concept of north / south / east / west to refer to the whole galaxy when viewed from the (obviously arbitrary, but the ED default) above position. So north is what you get if you head from Sol towards Sag A* and onwards to Beagle Point. South is the opposite direction, west is to the left of Sag A* and east to the right.

All in all, I would wish that FDev had chosen Sag A* to be the galactic co-ordinate centre rather than Sol. We long ago accepted that Sol doesn't revolve around the Earth and we should similarly accept that Sol isn't the centre of the galaxy!
 
Indeed, all trips are good. But I don't think that we've discussed the concept of "Sol's true north star" here and the claimed example is from elsewhere.

The idea of "true north" is very much dependant on what frame of reference you are considering. Earth's rotational axis and, indeed, the whole Solar System is not remotely aligned with the galactic plane - just consider the position of Polaris relative to Sol in the ED MW! So if you are considering north in either Sol's or Earth's terms then our terrestrial understanding of the term is a long way distant. Stating that Wregoe TV-L C24-0 is "north" of Sol doesn't make much sense to me. It simply doesn't apply in any Earth or Sol reference of the concept of "north".

I'm of the opinion that the relative flatness of the MW gives us a clear galactic plane and that therefore it makes more sense to say that you are either "above" or "below" it. Granted that those terms are entirely arbitrary in that they could be reversed, but the ED MW has positive and negative co-ordinates so it is reasonable to consider that positive is "above" and negative "below". That means that Wregoe TV-L C24-0 is more correctly "the furthest most direct star above Sol". Not as snappy perhaps but more accurate IMHO.

I much prefer using the concept of north / south / east / west to refer to the whole galaxy when viewed from the (obviously arbitrary, but the ED default) above position. So north is what you get if you head from Sol towards Sag A* and onwards to Beagle Point. South is the opposite direction, west is to the left of Sag A* and east to the right.

All in all, I would wish that FDev had chosen Sag A* to be the galactic co-ordinate centre rather than Sol. We long ago accepted that Sol doesn't revolve around the Earth and we should similarly accept that Sol isn't the centre of the galaxy!

Aye, true enough. And Personally, I'm as pedantic as they come. But "Sol's True North Star" makes for a snappier title than "Wregoe TV-L C24-0", though perhaps not to the seasoned explorer.
 
Aye, true enough. And Personally, I'm as pedantic as they come. But "Sol's True North Star" makes for a snappier title than "Wregoe TV-L C24-0", though perhaps not to the seasoned explorer.

I have not looked it up but did you use the 2017 "true north star" or the 3303 "true north star". (I presume that precession will have made a difference in the intervening millennium plus.) ;)
 
Totally agree SagA* should be 0-0 coords not Sol. Makes more sense.
You know, I could see in-universe the people from outside the Federation petitioning Universal Cartographics to institute a galactic coordinate system, instead of the current Federation-centric one.
So, does anybody want to start a petition to FD for this? It would be a simple linear translation anyway.
 
You know, I could see in-universe the people from outside the Federation petitioning Universal Cartographics to institute a galactic coordinate system, instead of the current Federation-centric one.
So, does anybody want to start a petition to FD for this? It would be a simple linear translation anyway.

If you take into account the countless tools that work with the coordinate set as it is now, it's going to be a nightmare to change. It's something that would make sense to work on at the beginning of the game but now 4 years laters it makes no sense to request such a change that can be potentially breaking. Just think of the existing journal logs that work with a different coordinate system. I think such a petition is a bad idea.
 
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