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After the heeled shoes, ban to go for a pee and poo. At Tyson Foods, the employees wear diapers, urinate and defecate standing in front of the assembly line, to maintain the production speed ---- https://www.oxfamamerica.org/static/media/files/No_Relief_Embargo.pdf

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Shocking, disturbing and upsetting that people are forced to endure that kind of degradation in a supposedly first-world nation.
 
America eh?

They shoot dead 6 yo in their classroom and people in churches, colleges and workplace and say it's victims fault from not having a gun.

Their soldiers gang      kids, burn down villages, sexually molest prisoners in their custody and take photos to show the folks back home. Get a few years in chokie.

Spend uncountable sums on a military their don't need, sending craft to the far reaches of the solar system and people into orbit for little real gain while their own people starve.

They run the biggest retail narcotics industry, with the side effect that millions of innocent people in C and S America are enslaved and murdered.

Given that, it seems pretty likely this is small beans by comparison.

What is perhaps more amazing about America is even a down and out, starving on the cold street, thinks he's lucky to be an American.

Now that's brainwashing. N Korea, Eat your heart out.
 
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http://www.tysonfoodscareers.com/ Nice movie available.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tyson_Foods#Use_of_slaughtering_methods

Use of slaughtering methods[edit]
From December 2004 through February 2005, an undercover investigator for People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals claimed to have worked on the slaughter line of a Tyson Foods chicken processing plant in Heflin, Alabama. Using a hidden camera, he allegedly documented the treatment of the more than 100,000 chickens killed every day in the plant. PETA alleges that workers were instructed to rip the heads off of birds who missed the throat-cutting machines. He claims he saw birds scalded alive in the feather removal tank, and he said that managers said that it was acceptable to scald 40 birds alive per shift. The investigator claims plant employees were also seen throwing around dead birds just for fun. PETA has asked Tyson to implement controlled atmosphere killing (CAK). For this reason, PETA is boycotting businesses that use Tyson as a supplier, such as KFC and distribution channels such as Sunset Strips. The video, taken by the investigator of the killings, was posted on YouTube.[27]

In 2006, Tyson completed a study to determine whether CAK, which uses gas to render chickens unconscious before slaughter, could be a more humane practice than conventional electrical stunning. According to Bill Lovette, Tyson's senior group vice president of poultry and prepared foods, the study found no difference between the humaneness of the two methods. The company plans to ask scientists at the University of Arkansas to initiate a similar study to test these initial results. The research will be led by the newly created Chair in Food Animal Wellbeing at the Dale Bumpers College of Agricultural, Food and Life Sciences of the University of Arkansas. Tyson has committed $1.5 million to help establish the Chair, which will be involved in overseeing research and classes focused on the humane management and treatment of food animals.[28]

Though it was second hand, I've heard similar stories of Chicken slaughtering plants here in the UK. Marshal's Chunky Chick near Glasgow for example.

One story I heard was that the slaughter was done by putting birds onto an enclosed conveyor belt. There would be holes above and when the chickens pushed their heads through, they would be grabbed and cut off.

Mmmm. Anyone for KFC?
 
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Yaffle

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Fundamentally we have an issue that we want unrealistic volumes of food at unrealistically low prices, that's what drives this sort of abhorrent behaviour.

I'm not making a case for everyone going vegetarian (I'm an omnivore) but we need to be realistic about how much we waste and how we treat our food sources, and those who produce them.
 
Fundamentally we have an issue that we want unrealistic volumes of food at unrealistically low prices, that's what drives this sort of abhorrent behaviour.

I'm not making a case for everyone going vegetarian (I'm an omnivore) but we need to be realistic about how much we waste and how we treat our food sources, and those who produce them.

That is very simply solved Mr Yaffle.

Eat the unemployed ;)
 

Yaffle

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That is very simply solved Mr Yaffle.

Eat the unemployed ;)

There was a game on the BBC 'B' years ago called Great Britain Limited, which was a very basic country simulator. You played the Prime Minister and had various economic tools at your disposal. I always called myself '6' so my name appeared as the Rt Honourable 6 PM.

Anyhow. I discovered that the game was easy if you reduced taxes massively, and removed all unemployment benefits. Once you had survived the first year all unemployed people vanished from the game - I assume they simply starved.

Now I worry Governments are trying this trick in real life.

Food is a real problem. Here in the EU we massively subsidise it, but I think it would be better to sell it at realistic prices allowing farmers to make a living, but give sufficient food away via vouchers or some system to those with the greatest need. I've not fully thought it through, but a reduction of waste and terrible treatment of animals, plants and workers is needed somehow.
 
Fundamentally we have an issue that we want unrealistic volumes of food at unrealistically low prices, that's what drives this sort of abhorrent behaviour.

I'm not making a case for everyone going vegetarian (I'm an omnivore) but we need to be realistic about how much we waste and how we treat our food sources, and those who produce them.

Also, these horrendous work conditions could just as well happen in a factory that processes plant-based food. Or factory of whatever kind - there have been multiple scandals about work conditions in the electronics business, for example. That this example here is in the meat industry is merely coincidental.
 
Subsidies are a problem, of course.

In north-east Scotland many farmers are paid loads of cash to not grow anything at all. They raise sheep and the resultant wool is burned because it's too much of a hassle to deal with.

Here in the US entire fields of corn are "contaminated" by another fields produce in order to render the crop illegal under IP laws. The farmers make more from lawsuits than they do from farming.

The whole thing is just entirely silly.
 
After the heeled shoes, ban to go for a pee and poo. At Tyson Foods, the employees wear diapers, urinate and defecate standing in front of the assembly line, to maintain the production speed ---- https://www.oxfamamerica.org/static/media/files/No_Relief_Embargo.pdf

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I will add this story here (please take the time to read this....this industry 'Agriculture' specifically meat processing is the main reason US has 'immigration' problems)...undocumented workers, as well as those on these companies supported work visas in these plants have no rights, live under constant threat of deportation...and because of this are America's new slaves. This is largley due to a judiciary that allows 'states rights' that enact 'right to work' laws.

https://www.hrw.org/reports/2005/usa0105/7.htm

Keep in mind that it is illegal in the US to report live from, take pictures of, or in any way provide visual evidence of what happens in these industrial plants.
 
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There was a game on the BBC 'B' years ago called Great Britain Limited, which was a very basic country simulator. You played the Prime Minister and had various economic tools at your disposal. I always called myself '6' so my name appeared as the Rt Honourable 6 PM.

Anyhow. I discovered that the game was easy if you reduced taxes massively, and removed all unemployment benefits. Once you had survived the first year all unemployed people vanished from the game - I assume they simply starved.

Now I worry Governments are trying this trick in real life.

Food is a real problem. Here in the EU we massively subsidise it, but I think it would be better to sell it at realistic prices allowing farmers to make a living, but give sufficient food away via vouchers or some system to those with the greatest need. I've not fully thought it through, but a reduction of waste and terrible treatment of animals, plants and workers is needed somehow.

I remember that game and how it worked. Sorry to say it was about as realistic as me flying my Asp, 20+ light years with a load of slaves to deliver to some outpost of the empire.

I won't go into it too deeply, that level of economics isn't particularly complicated, but it's been said already. Needless to say, reducing taxes and removing all unemployment benefits would cause an immediate recession.

I recall being somewhat more shocked by the claim by the publishers, AcornSoft, that they were including the game free with the Beeb and the Electron in the hope that it would be adopted by schools. As it turned out, the notion was rejected by teachers and the Dept of Education.

As for subsidies to Farmers, there are good reasons why almost every economic zone in the world does this. Food is the most basic of essentials. If an economic zone doesn't produce, or retain the potential to produce enough, then it is instantly the mercy of any economic zone that does.

This why in all the European wars of the last 1000 or so years, one of the first things to be attacked was food.

This was also the principal reason the British were so eager to bring the Americans into WW2 because Hitler was attacking the food convoys at sea.

Any government that doesn't ensure that its farmers can continue to produce food won't last long.
 
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