Somebody please explain this to me (new player)

forkinator

forkinator
I am so confused at what just happened.

I was mining, and after having about 70 tons of opals, i decided to go a ways out of the ring to take a break while I eat lunch. The reason i did this instead of relog, is becasue no matter where I am in the galaxy, even if its a way out of the bubble, when I go to a hotspot, there are ALWAYS pirates there that magically spawn and check my cargo, so if i logged out, and back in, they would magically be there and attack me since i am carrying a lot of credits worth of cargo.

Anyways, long story short, I decided to enable the "silent running" option, which turns off shields.


I knew my heat would increase a bit, but I did not know I would be unable to turn my shields back on.

Eventually, my ship exploded, because i could not power up my shields in the module panel. I am a new player so this is something to learn from.

My question is, why was I unable to restore my shields?
 

Cmdr Ultra

Cmdr Ultra
It's not your Shields that was the problem.
You turned on Silent Running and closed all your Heat Vents. You cooked yourself.
Check your key bindings to turn off or toggle Silent Running on or off.
Losing Shields is just a side effect of Silent Running.
If you want to eat your lunch park inside an exploded Ice Asteroid. Very cold , zero heat. NPC's can't see you.
 
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Atreyeu

Atreyeu
I'm a new-ish player myself so I'm just guessing here but assuming you still had silent running on? This would stop your shields from being turned back on in the module panel.
 

Stealthie

Stealthie
Also, at the risk of stating the obvious, your shields don't come back on-line immediately after you cancel silent-running.
You have to wait for them to recharge.
 

VR SenseiMatty

VR SenseiMatty
With Silent Running ON you can't turn on the shields. It's part of the mode itself.

If you don't engage a fight or run into an asteroid you can stay without shields all the time.

You died for another reason: your ship fried. In Silent Running the ship overheats and when the Heat Levels exceed 100% your ship starts taking damge until.... it explodes!

Silent Running is intended to be used only for few moments (less than a minute) or together with a Heat Sink (to extend the time a little bit).

Silent Running it's not intended as a "parking mode" ;)
 
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dm06

dm06
forkinator said:
I knew my heat would increase a bit, but I did not know I would be unable to turn my shields back on.

Eventually, my ship exploded, because i could not power up my shields in the module panel. I am a new player so this is something to learn from.

My question is, why was I unable to restore my shields?
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Once silent running has been turned off shields will not rise instantly, there're time delay, charge rate and so on.
You ship exploded because of the temperature. (Ship's self destruction implemented via overheating).
You can fly without shields it won't hurt you ship but collisions with other objects will do.
Silent running disables shields always, it is impossible to have shields and silent running at the same time.
 
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insanephoton

insanephoton
Shields can't be powered up while silent running. I guess it's a balance thing as silent running with shields might be too effective for combat. The only way to keep in silent running for extended periods without cooking your ship is to turn off almost every module. Just make sure you don't leave life support off for too long.
 

Kenneth McGrew

Kenneth McGrew
Deadlock-3000 said:
Brave new world, where a noob can be carrying over 100 million's worth of cargo but not understand what pressing a specific key does.
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Jealous? should all noobs be banned from void opals until having worked in the mail room for 6 months?


Op took the rebuy on the chin and is seeking guidance to learn from the mistake, great attitude to have, its not as if ED specifically tells you what will happen if you keep Silent Running on in game.
 

Atreyeu

Atreyeu
Kenneth Mcgrew said:
Op took the rebuy on the chin and is seeking guidance to learn from the mistake, great attitude to have, its not as if ED specifically tells you what will happen if you keep Silent Running on in game.
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In a more 'realistic' setting, a person doesn't buy a car without knowing what the hand brake does ;)
Well... maybe some people do...
 

Rebel Yell

Rebel Yell
Oh nooo! Me much sad for the lost booty!!!

Me be very happy to keep opals for ya next time :D yarrr
 
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Valorin

Valorin
It's kinda badly balanced if you can get an Anaconda as a new player before you learned flying smaller ships or know about basic things like Silent Running. Not the new player's fault of course.
 

Deadlock-3000

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Kenneth Mcgrew said:
Jealous? should all noobs be banned from void opals until having worked in the mail room for 6 months?
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No, of course not. Obviously it's just another stupid design decision in a game which already had the balance of Zebedee from the Magic Roundabout in a class five hurricane.

Op took the rebuy on the chin and is seeking guidance to learn from the mistake, great attitude to have, its not as if ED specifically tells you what will happen if you keep Silent Running on in game.
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Yeah, it was like that in the original cinematic cut of Alien. Instead of running back and forth sobbing for half an hour with steam inexplicably shooting everywhere while a sinister computer voice shouted numbers into a reverb chamber, Ripley just pressed one button and you cut to the end credits because no-one ever explained to her what the button actually did.
 
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insanephoton

insanephoton
Valorin said:
It's kinda badly balanced if you can get an Anaconda as a new player before you learned flying smaller ships or know about basic things like Silent Running. Not the new player's fault of course.
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To be fair, using Silent running these days is pretty niche. I guess some might use it for smuggling, though you don't really need to (landing quickly and using heat sinks to break lock is much easier). I'm not sure if stealth builds are still a thing for pvp, or has NV made it pointless?
 

Shiro Akai

Shiro Akai
First - shields and silent running are mutually exclusive. Either shields, or silent running. Both at the same time? Nope.
Second - silent running is "oh sh... biowaste!" button. And not the ultimate one. In general, your ship produces heat which makes your "signature" - a mark on which other ship's sensors can lock on. Silent running is an "ability" to limit your heat signature, thus reducing the detect radius and break scanning/missile lock/sensor lock. But they don't render you totally invisible for the time being. If close enough it's possible to detect even silent running ship.

What you already learned, silent running does two things:
- drops your shields
- increase internal heat build up
Think of it like turning off AC and shutting all vents in your room during a very hot day. Temperature will rise quickly and if you won't re-enable vents and AC you can get a heat stroke. This is what you did to your ship.

Now - the sole reason why you done that. Partially blame FDEVs for that. It's because world isn't persistent and work by, what I like to call it, IF-THEN "logic".

1. IF you drop to a mining site, THEN pirate is spawned
2. IF you have cargo, THEN you get attacked/harassed (limpets and freshly mined stuff is NOT considered cargo)
3. IF you don't have cargo, THEN you won't be attacked

When you log out, leave site, pick another one or decide to get back to your previous one - your previously mined stuff looses "freshly mined" hidden tag and turns into regular cargo - see point no. 2.

So if you must, really must, absolutely must leave your current mining spot, for whatever reason, head back to the station and sell it. Otherwise you WILL be visited by pirates and attacked. From here it;'s either fight it or leg it.

Other option is visiting rebuy screen.
 

Navigare Necesse Est

Navigare Necesse Est
I say the heat killed you. Not "not having shields". You need to vent the heat. To reduce heat generation turn off systems, but I'm not sure if that also reduces the sensor signature of your ship. Silent running is closing down all the heat radiation and that builds up inside. So far I have not heard of a ship that can be run silent indefinitely, but I'm no expert in the engineer .
 

bootsam

bootsam
Yep. heat. I accidently turnt my silent running on whilst binding the new keys. I lost a fully A rated Cutter and its cargo. Expensive mistake. :)

Had I had my headphones on at the time, I may have noticed. But I didnt and went boom.
 

dm06

dm06
Valorin said:
It's kinda badly balanced if you can get an Anaconda as a new player before you learned flying smaller ships or know about basic things like Silent Running. Not the new player's fault of course.
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player can earn moneys without knowing ship mechanics. Asteroids don't ask "do you know about silent running?"
 
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