Something about Isle size.

Grimnir

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So people here seems to be very nervous about the whole....Isle size debacle. Which is fine and all.

But the first isle is one of the smallest and can atleast have 5-10 exhibits of dinosaurs easily alone. Depending on efficiency. Isnt that enough for literally step 1? And this is a singular area, without any chance of expanding upon it. Somehow i doubt people will be on the first isle for long too. Much less return to it.

A detail i noticed in the demo gameplay is that you have a Monorail building. I dont think ive seen anyone else mention this but the other, larger isles might consist of different areas around, where you can build monorail stations to expand upon the park. (Expand into what usually is inacessible)

Its simple. We have evidence that suggest you can access inaccessable areas of the isles. Basing all feedback on the first isle, which is already been pointed out by Frontier to be one of the smallest ones, is unreasonable.

This would suggest that parks become fairly big if its justified to be a building in itself. Not some "Click and buy" feature stuck on the map. I am optimistic with the few tidbits of information. The devs have topographical knowledge of all the isles and which areas would be suitable over those areas that would not.

So im optimistic with all evidence presented so far, which signals what is to come. And others should be optimistic as well.

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I'm not saying that its unreasonable to be concerned. But its unreasonable to expect the first isle to be a accurate assessment of whats to come based on currently available information.
 
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Lora Craft69

Lora Craft69
The biggest map is bigger than a planet coaster map, that's what we know so far and that's pretty big.
Some people think they should be allowed to build on the entire island, I just hope that the biggest map is big enough to put all the dinosaurs (40-45) that are in the game.
 

Norsepath

Norsepath
Lora Craft69 said:
The biggest map is bigger than a planet coaster map, that's what we know so far and that's pretty big.
Some people think they should be allowed to build on the entire island, I just hope that the biggest map is big enough to put all the dinosaurs (40-45) that are in the game.
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most people are still thinking that the map size is small because JPOG maps where based on that you created your own whole islands in that game ;) and those islands aren't even close to the biggest map if we reach any size bigger then the planet coaster size! I still think we'll have plenty enough with space for our parks. after all Isla Matanceros is the ''Starter Island'' It's probably the smallest gameplay area amongst Isla Pena
 
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Dino droppings? Droppings?

Dino droppings? Droppings?
Grimnir said:
So people here seems to be very nervous about the whole....Isle size debacle. Which is fine and all.

But the first isle is one of the smallest and can atleast have 5-10 exhibits of dinosaurs easily alone. Depending on efficiency. Isnt that enough for literally step 1? And this is a singular area, without any chance of expanding upon it. Somehow i doubt people will be on the first isle for long too. Much less return to it.

A detail i noticed in the demo gameplay is that you have a Monorail building. I dont think ive seen anyone else mention this but the other, larger isles might consist of different areas around, where you can build monorail stations to expand upon the park. (Expand into what usually is inacessible)

Its simple. We have evidence that suggest you can access inaccessable areas of the isles. Basing all feedback on the first isle, which is already been pointed out by Frontier to be one of the smallest ones, is unreasonable.

This would suggest that parks become fairly big if its justified to be a building in itself. Not some "Click and buy" feature stuck on the map. I am optimistic with the few tidbits of information. The devs have topographical knowledge of all the isles and which areas would be suitable over those areas that would not.

So im optimistic with all evidence presented so far, which signals what is to come. And others should be optimistic as well.

Edit:

I'm not saying that its unreasonable to be concerned. But its unreasonable to expect the first isle to be a accurate assessment of whats to come based on currently available information.
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Nick who is of the leads animaters has said that Las Matanceros is actually a 'medium' sized island. Now, he may have been referring to the actual size of the island or the playable area, however, the impression i got was that he was referring to playable area.
 

Andrew2018

Andrew2018
I think that there is more than enough space. I have gotten the feeling that we are suppose to spread everything out over the 5 islands not just crammed into one.
 

Baryonyx

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No way can you fit 10 enclosures on Matanceros. You can fit three similar to the prebuilt one, tops. Maybe 4 if you coop them up.
 

Heradon

Heradon
Andrew2018 said:
I think that there is more than enough space. I have gotten the feeling that we are suppose to spread everything out over the 5 islands not just crammed into one.
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Well that would be bad game design to give us a similar limitation as in JPOG. That means I can't have one big park with all the dinosaurs in one a single map. JPOG had a big island but you could only unlock a certain amount of species. Either way you can't stuff all dinosaurs in game on a single map. I really hope that they map size won't be an annoying limitation like the last SimCity game. I want to build a park not a zoo.
 

dLimith

dLimith
So they said Isla Sorna would be slightly larger than the coaster planet map. So my question to those who played it, what do you think?
 

PCMR4Life

PCMR4Life
I was worried about map/play area size as well but really Matanceros really isn't as small as people make it out to be. After watching some gameplay videos of it again there is a pretty good amount of usable space. Is it really big? No. But it works for a starting/tutorial location. Do I wish it could have been a little bigger? Of course. I believe one of the challenges this game will have is space management. How to get the most out of the space you have. The real challenge will be making rooms for all the Carnivores you will have in your parks. Cause it probably wouldn't be good to put a carnivore in with the herbivores and get all your expensive Dinosaurs killed and eaten.
 

Baryonyx

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Andrew2018 said:
Don't mind him, he likes to complain a lot.
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When I do complain it's for a valid reason.

I don't nitpick over little things like grass poking through pavements and dinosaurs only running because they're clearly simple errors and simple fixes.

I only complain about things that should be in the game but aren't (lack of park cosmetics, only one ride, small map size) and which will really limit what we can do with the game.
 

DARGAN

DARGAN
about the size of the map ..

I prefer large maps accordingly to the price of sacrificing graphic quality and some gameplay stuff .. rather than tiny maps.

this can not be worse than the last simcity .. yes !?

the last simcity his maps were really tiny and the buildings far too big, even if it's not the same type of game.. not too small anyway please!
 
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Grimnir

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Baryonyx said:
When I do complain it's for a valid reason.

I don't nitpick over little things like grass poking through pavements and dinosaurs only running because they're clearly simple errors and simple fixes.

I only complain about things that should be in the game but aren't (lack of park cosmetics, only one ride, small map size) and which will really limit what we can do with the game.
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For me, most of your concerns arent very well-founded. Especially considering we only got a 40 minute demo of a old build. And the first isle was very well sized. You wont see any complaints from me about whats literally the tutorial isle.

Regarding park cosmetics... I think there will be some cosmetics available. Considering the preorder bonus is vehicle and helicopter skin. Its likely that this can be implemented for other things in the game.

And its already proven to be 2 rides in the game so far.
 

Baryonyx

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Grimnir said:
For me, most of your concerns arent very well-founded. Especially considering we only got a 40 minute demo of a old build. And the first isle was very well sized. You wont see any complaints from me about whats literally the tutorial isle.

Regarding park cosmetics... I think there will be some cosmetics available. Considering the preorder bonus is vehicle and helicopter skin. Its likely that this can be implemented for other things in the game.

And its already proven to be 2 rides in the game so far.
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What 2 rides?

All what's been seen is the gyrospheres
 
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