Elite / Frontier Something about the Feel... Warning largish images

[Steve O B Have]

These are some photos from the Cassini-Huygens space probe sent to Saturn. To be clear, these are taken from a camera hanging of a 6 ton spacecraft that measures around 22 feet high by 13 feet wide.

There is something about these images that stretch the imagination, and give you something to dream about. I want to be able to get into my spaceship and see these sights first hand.

The moon Dione with Saturn in the background

The moon Enceladus

Saturn in close true colour as the eye would see it.

SATURN - this one stuns me

Image source: http://saturn.jpl.nasa.gov/home/index.cfm

 

[Steve O B Have]

The moon Titan seen through the rings of Saturn

Thought I'd include some of the Jupiter flyby images also:

 

[Steve O B Have]

and a movie of the saturn flyby created from the photos...

http://saturn.jpl.nasa.gov/multimedia/videos/movies/PIA07806_full_movie.mpg

 

[Steve O B Have]

Sorry to dredge up an old thread but I had to share this - The Cassini-Huygens probe is still doing it's thing and here is an image it has captured of the North Polar Region of Enceladus, one of Saturns moons. It's just magic:

 

[turwhitt]

I thought i recognised that second jupiter one.... The Algebraist, anybody?

Beautiful images.

 

[DrBaggy]

Lovely: they don't look real! Too clean, no lens flare, the sky too black: we'd criticise them in a game, but I really hope Elite 4 is brave enough to emulate reality, it doen't need prettying up does it? Thanks Steve

 

[Sir.Tj]

Stunning pictures. can't believe some of them

 

[Steve O B Have]

Lovely: they don't look real! Too clean, no lens flare, the sky too black: we'd criticise them in a game, but I really hope Elite 4 is brave enough to emulate reality, it doen't need prettying up does it? Thanks Steve

Nah man, not at all - I've said it before, the stark desolation of space is the thing that makes the bits in between all the more stunning. Altho we have to give Frontier at least a little artistic license LOL

 

[Sir.Tj]

Do you think they used the Mod to make space black?

 

[Alien]

Lovely: they don't look real! Too clean, no lens flare, the sky too black: we'd criticise them in a game, but I really hope Elite 4 is brave enough to emulate reality, it doen't need prettying up does it? Thanks Steve

Wasn't there some theory as to why during the Apollo 11 moon landing photos there were no stars in the background ?
I seem to remember this was to counter conspiracy theories that the moon landing was faked.

 

[Steve O B Have]

Wasn't there some theory as to why during the Apollo 11 moon landing there were no stars in the background ?
I seem to remember this was to counter conspiracy theories that the moon landing was faked.

Yeah it was to do with the glare washing out the stars. It's a relative thing that photographers have to deal with, to expose the foreground properly when it is so bright you have to speed up the exposure time and the outcome is that not enough light comes through from stars to expose them properly or sometimes at all. If the exposure time is long enough to show the stars the foreground will be overexposed (blown out).

 

[Adrena1in]

Wasn't there some theory as to why during the Apollo 11 moon landing photos there were no stars in the background ?

And why the flag fluttered as though there was a breeze, and why the background in a lot of the different images was always the same, and why the shadows weren't always black like they should be, and how if you speed up any moon-landing videos by two they look exactly how they'd look if they were taking in a hanger here on earth!?

Amazing photos. I've managed a photo of Saturn from my back garden, but it doesn't quite compare!

 

[Steve O B Have]

^^^fair call, the majority of this site is based on Science Fiction

That's a cool photo! I was lucky enough to see both Saturn and Jupiter though telescopes in the Northern Territories in Australia where there is no light pollution whatsoever. It's quite an inspiring view and leaves you pretty impressed with the early astronomers that were able to build telescopes to see these things so many years ago. You can actually see the lines on Jupiter where the colours are.

Looked like this but a little smaller:

 

[Alien]

And why the flag fluttered as though there was a breeze, and why the background in a lot of the different images was always the same, and why the shadows weren't always black like they should be, and how if you speed up any moon-landing videos by two they look exactly how they'd look if they were taking in a hanger here on earth!?

Yes I had heard about all of that as well.

Sorry if I've took this off topic, but it was mentioned about the black background.

2 things conviced me the Apollo 11 moon landing was real:
1) a friend of mine who was alive at the time remembered others with telescopes watching men bounce around on the moon.
2) A TV program I saw a couple of years ago explained all those inconsistancies.

Right you can bring this thread back on topic now.

Steve O B have will probably post some more images now (I hope !)

 

[Sir.Tj]

a friend of mine who was alive at the time remembered others with telescopes watching men bounce around on the moon.

Is that possible? if it is, would'nt you be able to see the things they left behind?

 

[Steve O B Have]

Is that possible? if it is, would'nt you be able to see the things they left behind?

Unfortunately even the Hubble space telescope lacks the resolution to see the actual landing site as far as I know... Will have to do some investimagation.

EDIT: From NASA themselves: http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2005/11jul_lroc.htm

And why haven't we photographed them? There are six landing sites scattered across the Moon. They always face Earth, always in plain view. Surely the Hubble Space Telescope could photograph the rovers and other things astronauts left behind. Right?

Wrong. Not even Hubble can do it. The Moon is 384,400 km away. At that distance, the smallest things Hubble can distinguish are about 60 meters wide. The biggest piece of left-behind Apollo equipment is only 9 meters across and thus smaller than a single pixel in a Hubble image.

Better pictures are coming. In 2008 NASA's Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter will carry a powerful modern camera into low orbit over the Moon's surface. Its primary mission is not to photograph old Apollo landing sites, but it will photograph them, many times, providing the first recognizable images of Apollo relics since 1972.

 

[Alien]

Is that possible? if it is, would'nt you be able to see the things they left behind?

I'm only telling you what I was told by my best friend at the time. I wasn't born then (1972 if you are interested). But it seems strange to me that if we can see the Sea Of Tranquility (and Mount Marylin: Apollo 13) with our own eyes then why can't a telescope see more detail.

 

[Alien]

Better pictures are coming. In 2008 NASA's Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter will carry a powerful modern camera into low orbit over the Moon's surface. Its primary mission is not to photograph old Apollo landing sites, but it will photograph them, many times, providing the first recognizable images of Apollo relics since 1972.

How much do you want to bet that conspiracy theorists will decry the pictures saying they are all faked !

 

[Steve O B Have]

I'm only telling you what I was told by my best friend at the time. I wasn't born then (1972 if you are interested). But it seems strange to me that if we can see the Sea Of Tranquility (and Mount Marylin: Apollo 13) with our own eyes then why can't a telescope see more detail.

The Sea Of Tranquility is 873Km wide - the lunar lander is about 9 - unfortunately there are limits to technology.

I thought much the same thing up until about 5 minutes ago - I thought that you could see this stuff too - unfortunately it didn't stand up to research - learn something new every day here!

It'll be interesting to see what the conspiracy lot come up with when the Lunar Recon Orbiter sends back piccies of the lander and rover... Not real - Photoshopped!!! Pfft.

EDIT: LOL Snap

 

[Alien]

It'll be interesting to see what the conspiracy lot come up with when the Lunar Recon Orbiter sends back piccies of the lander and rover... Not real - Photoshopped!!! Pfft.

You can't blame them though if they did, the standards of computer graphics, corruption, lies, mis-information, but I still wish they'd accept that we will never know wether the moon landings were real or fake so they may as well just accept them as real.