Sorry seems to be the hardest word?

Let me tell you a tale. It's a sad tale concerning the death of an MMO (no, not this one! :rolleyes: ), and how the news of that death was delivered...

It all starts with a single phrase, one which to this day will cause some MMO players to cringe and curse under their breath. This emotive phrase came from Korean software giant NCsoft when they decided, seemingly out of the blue, to close the long-running MMO City of Heroes :-

"In a realignment of company focus and publishing support, NCsoft has made the decision to close Paragon Studios."

The only thing close to a reason they gave the players (for whom the game had been a part of their lives for seven years!) was this :-

"The continued support of the franchise no longer fits with our long-term goals for the company."

...and that was it. NCsoft was immediately inundated with emails from CoH players asking why, begging the company to reconsider, swearing they'd never buy another NCsoft game, etc etc...you can imagine how it went, even if you weren't there to witness it.

NCsoft were shocked, but said nothing. And they continued to say nothing. But the players...oh yes, the players still had a voice! The emails continued. Game jounralists were contacted. Packages were mailed directly to NCsoft in Korea containing photos, symbolic hero masks and heartfelt pleas... And eventually NCsoft posted this on their Facebook page :-

We wanted to let you know that your voices have been heard and your concerns have been taken into serious consideration. We appreciate the overwhelmingly constructive and positive messages in the emails, notes, and packages you've sent in support of the game. It has not been an easy decision for us to close Paragon Studios® and prepare to shut down City of Heroes. We've exhausted all options including the selling of the studio and the rights to the City of Heroes intellectual property, but in the end, efforts to do so were not successful. City of Heroes has a special place in all of our hearts, and we want to ensure its reputation and the memories we share for the game end on a high note.

And once more the players were outraged.
Why?
Look again at all of those comments. What's missing?

THE APOLOGY!

Never once did NCsoft apologise to the players. Perhaps it was a Korean thing. Perhaps it was just corporate complacency. But whatever the reason, NCsoft did not then, and have not to this day, issued an apology to City of Heroes players for closing the game they had invested so much of their emotions and creativity into over the seven years the game ran.

You may ask, "Would an apology really have made a difference to the players?"
I guess we'll never know. But at the very least it couldn't have made things any worse, could it?

Now. Back to Elite Dangerous...

I have read Newsletter #49. I have read the zillion+ page thread about SP offline. I have read all the developer comments about the topic. I understand the reasons for the decision to exclude an offline mode. And I can certainly empathise with how hard it was to make those decisions.

But what I have not seen is the slightest hint of an apology.

Unlike with NCsoft's nebulous corporate statement, I can see much more clearly the nature of the tough decision FD had to make, and I understand it. It's also obvious they never intended for things to go down like this - to all you conspiracy mongers I say simply this : if you were running FD, would you wait until just four weeks before your most treasured game's release date to drop a bombshell like this? Of course you wouldn't. It's clear FD's motives were for the good of the game, and it's also clear this decision has truly pained them.

Which is why it puzzles me all the more that we've not seen an apology from them about the matter.

Right since the Kickstarter I've been impressed at the sense of community surrounding this project. Frontier have shown on numerous occasions that not only do they listen to the Elite community, they also act on what they've heard - we were all in this together! That was the message I got. A strong community makes for a better game after all. The happier both the devs and the community are, the better the game will ultimately be.

Yet here we have a situation where the devs are hurting (that much is obvious) and instead of turning to their community for support, the only message we're getting right now is a dismissive one. It's a done deal, case closed, move on says the message.

It's trying to sweep the problem under the rug and hope it's quickly forgotten.

But alas this isn't going to go away. Already we've seen anger, ragequits, calls for refunds, and even people lashing out with their frustration in the direction of games media outlets, an action which (while understandable) will likely harm Elite Dangerous itself as it rolls on towards launch. And those who feel so aggrieved will not forget. This will simmer & seethe inside them, and they will probably never trust FD again, and that is a sad outcome indeed :(

It's like NCsoft all over again.

But FD still have the chance to avoid the same fate. There's still time to put out a statement to the community. Add a sticky post to the forum, send out a special one off newsletter...whatever it takes. Explain the reason for the decision and most importantly apologise to those for whom the prospect of offline mode was such a big deal.

Will it make a difference? There's only one way to tell, isn't there?

There is goodwill at stake here. And whether that goodwill is to be lost or gained is entirely in FD's hands.

FD I implore you - please don't be another NCsoft.

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EDIT 19-11-14 : Newsletter #50 (dated 19th Nov) has within it a detailed explanation of Frontier Developments' reasons for removing the offline SP option, and also includes the following statements from David Braben :
"I am really sorry this has upset people"
and
"In retrospect we should have shared the fact that we were struggling with this aspect with the community, but we were still trying to find a solution."

In that these statements certainly constitute more of an apology than NCsoft ever offered the players of City of Heroes, I consider this thread's core concept to be fulfilled.
 
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Nice Story thanks for sharing ( I mean it)
but NCsoft had nothing to apologies about it was a business decision nothing to apologies about. and they explained it.
FD also explained why they had to cancel offline mode there is no need to apologies for a decision.
for the way they told us? maybe. for the decision? no.
 
lol NCsoft

only good thing they ever did was GW, first of the name, which they utterly destroyed with GW2.
 
It's like NCsoft all over again.

To be honest I don't think it's anything like NCsoft.

You're talking about a company that closed servers to a released game that had been running for 7 years versus a company that were unable to implement a feature in an unreleased game.

Now if this was several years down the line and Frontier has just thrown in the towel and were going to close the E: D servers down, we'd have a comparison.

Not to demean your post (and it was an interesting read) but a lot of loud voices has given the offline feature a lot of weight, too much weight in fact - and in the long run, post-release, this is going to be forgotten.

I trust Frontier when they say it's for the betterment of the game that they drop support for offline play. It's a shame that trust is no longer there for so many others.
 
Nice Story thanks for sharing ( I mean it)
but NCsoft had nothing to apologies about it was a business decision nothing to apologies about. and they explained it.
FD also explained why they had to cancel offline mode there is no need to apologies for a decision.
for the way they told us? maybe. for the decision? no.

You're so right, they owe no apology for a business decision. People need to get a life and move on if they can't move forward with the rest of us.

I for one, still support FD and ED, 100%, for their decision, a hard one to be sure, it's the right one for the company and the community as a whole.

Keep up the great work, David, Michael, and the test of the FD team.
 
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no apology is necessary in my opinion it's a shame but the rest of the modes will have to be enough and maybe we can have an offline mode later at least they are no longer flogging a dead horse and can put more time into the modes that can work and again maybe if we are lucky we can have off line later after all dlc releses.
 
OP very well put, I couldn't agree more. I don't actually care about Offline play, but I do about the game and community which is going down hill rapidly.
 
From my point of view, no apology necessary. I understand the frustration, but I don't agree with such a vociferous backlash, it's immature and gives us gamers bad rep. FDEV have done an amazing job so far (this game runs on my 2011 Alienware M15x at medium!) and I fully expect them to continue their awesome job.
 
In my experience you'll be waiting a long time for an apology, as i see it you either request a refund or keep playing. I was a CoH/CoV player and what they did was no worse than what SOE did with SWG. FD have cut one aspect of a game that has yet to be released and to them I guess it's nothing more than a business decision.

Personally I don't agree with what they have done, I probably would still have brought the game but I wouldn't have backed it as I did. Either way what's done is done time to make decisions and move on. The game still has a lot of potential but none the less the fact that not everyone can now play it as they had planned is a shame.
 
I expect there will be cake at the launch party. :D

yummm...
i have a news for you

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:D
 
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OP very well put, I couldn't agree more. I don't actually care about Offline play, but I do about the game and community which is going down hill rapidly.

The only reason for a decline in community attitude is the whining of people who have no understanding of software development and project management.
 
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no apology is necessary in my opinion it's a shame but the rest of the modes will have to be enough and maybe we can have an offline mode later at least they are no longer flogging a dead horse and can put more time into the modes that can work and again maybe if we are lucky we can have off line later after all dlc releses.

That is right now the only reason that I don´t refund..... I am sure that in 6 month or a Year the Hypetrain goes to the next Station .... than FD must reconsider what to do with an mostly empty (50K Players in 400 Billion System)
living Galaxy.
And what wonders me the much...that they still believe that ALL will fullfill ....."Everything is Awesome.....
 
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