Should the Fer-de-Lance be recalled to fit it with a new styled canopy that eliminates the (obscuring) cross bar and the over-heating problem when fuel scooping?
Sould the F-D-L be recalled?
- Thread starter Lord Lucan Onion Head
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What over-heating problem? I have absolutely zero issues while scooping. Maybe you're doing it wrong?
And I can't see FD doing a full re-design of the ship assets just to shift a few canopy struts
Sigh.
No I am not doing it wrong. I have been fuel scooping nearly every day for three months.
Compare fuel scooping in a FDL with other ships. I think that even a FD developer said they would look into it.
See here:
https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=127072
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I owned a FDL for about a week before I traded it back in. Although I didn't have any heat problems, I hated those struts that obscure the cockpit - especially when flying to a station in SC and trying to see the numbers count down.
I've got to agree that it would be good for FD to remodel that part of the canopy. If you look at it from the outside it isn't unfeasable to have one complete section at the top of the canopy - it still wouldn't be as big as the one on the Imperial Clipper.
I've got to agree that it would be good for FD to remodel that part of the canopy. If you look at it from the outside it isn't unfeasable to have one complete section at the top of the canopy - it still wouldn't be as big as the one on the Imperial Clipper.
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Sorry, I didn't mean that as a dig at you, but I simply don't see any problems while scooping in the FDL. Maybe other people have a different technique to me which is the cause of this issue.
They don't need to move the struts - just the position of the seat!!
Also "problem with the crossbar"? Have you ever tried the Vulture? That one has more crossbars than a cage, and it still has its uses (like the very small loss of glass during a canopy breach).
The only real problem I see with the FdL's cockpit is its total asymmetry. Your seat is not only slightly to the right, but also slightly to the front when you compare to the left seat, so for a single-player ship comming from the evolution line Sidewinder -> Eagle -> Viper -> Vulture, with all of them having centered cockpits, that can be quite a kick, specially when other ships in the same pricetag have a seat with better positioning and visibility and are not fighter ships (like the multipurpose Python or the big transport freighter Type-9).
Even the semi-capital class Anaconda has a centered cockpit, while the FdL has an asymmetric layout similar to the civilian transport ship Orca. That sounds REALLY out of place, but again, a completely different problem.
The only real problem I see with the FdL's cockpit is its total asymmetry. Your seat is not only slightly to the right, but also slightly to the front when you compare to the left seat, so for a single-player ship comming from the evolution line Sidewinder -> Eagle -> Viper -> Vulture, with all of them having centered cockpits, that can be quite a kick, specially when other ships in the same pricetag have a seat with better positioning and visibility and are not fighter ships (like the multipurpose Python or the big transport freighter Type-9).
Even the semi-capital class Anaconda has a centered cockpit, while the FdL has an asymmetric layout similar to the civilian transport ship Orca. That sounds REALLY out of place, but again, a completely different problem.
Sorry, I didn't mean that as a dig at you, but I simply don't see any problems while scooping in the FDL. Maybe other people have a different technique to me which is the cause of this issue.
No problem.
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Yes I fly a Vulture. The crossbars look like a gusset on a pair of panties (Google for an image).
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On a practical note, would you get a loan ship until the work has been completed?
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On a practice note, would you get a loan ship until the work has been completed?
If it's anything like my local garage it would be an Adder.
Compared to other ships the Fer-de-Lance DOES overheat ridiculously quickly while fuel scooping. I have lost count of the occasions where I almost fried baby while topping off my fuel tank. I have decided to see it as a "quirk". The ship is obviously not made for travel
So perhaps it should be left anchored at a permanent mooring somewhere as a museum piece? Great idea, badly executed. Until the MKII comes out of course.
The heat issue isn't restricted to scooping, it's an overall flaw with the ship that is TOO damaging to it's performance. Running 2 x medium beams and 1 x large beam overheats the ship ridiculously fast, and I mean in 5 seconds or so... it needs tuning down a notch or two. It's the only reason I traded it in for a Python... which can run 3 large beams without overheating near instantly.
Sorry, I didn't mean that as a dig at you, but I simply don't see any problems while scooping in the FDL. Maybe other people have a different technique to me which is the cause of this issue.
Weird, I moved my FDL from the Lugh area down to Beta-1 Tucanae last night and scooped at 6 stars on the way.
I didn't notice an issue with overheating either? I'm not saying there isn't one of course, just that I haven't noticed. I'll try some more scooping tonight
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I am exploring in FDL at now, I am in a half way to Eagle Nebula and there is no problem with canopy, scooping, overheating or something. I am scooping on every single one jump.
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FDL is good as is. No changes needed. No larger tank, no something else. (however a light range buff would be nice)
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The FdL does strike me as quite warm scooping even with a A Grade Plant. I usually put it down to the fact that I was running an absurd borderline 120% profile between Boosters, Cells, P. Accelerator and Pulses.
It's not a big deal, you do the miles you need because you're going to dock wherever your new area of operations is going to be, a couple of bucks in repairs ain't no thang.
It's not a big deal, you do the miles you need because you're going to dock wherever your new area of operations is going to be, a couple of bucks in repairs ain't no thang.
If your over heating then you have no clue what your doing.
Maybe you are using a Class 4 scoop, so you are done scooping before the heat becomes a problem. Try it with a Class 2 fuel scoop...
If you keep enough distance to the sun, you can basically sit still (at 30km/s) with most/all other ships almost forever, without overheating. This is impossible with the FdL. Using a class 2 scoop, it is impossible to fill the fuel tank in one go. This makes travelling with the FdL annoyingly tedious. As if the jump range, fuel tank size and lack of internal compartments weren't bad enough already.
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