Spacial Sickness

X-Bumble · Dec 27, 2017

Like a lot of people, I suffer from spacial sickness (no pun intended) when playing a fps or a 3d game like this. Sadly it means I cannot play for very long without feeling very ill.

I try to mitigate this problem by putting the game into a smaller window and reducing the camera shake.

It's the sideways movement that gets me. Up and down seem to be OK. One of the biggest problems for me is when I move to the left or right screen as it swoops and makes me feel very ill.

Is there a different way I can get to those screens without them swooping horizontally.

I have car sickness bands on but the help is limited. I don't want to take any sickness pills just for a game.

Can anyone recommend anything else that may help alleviate the issues?

Yaffle · Dec 27, 2017

Other than a travel sickness tablet - not really. It's the disconnect between the eyes and the balance organ causing you issues.

Ginger can help with nausea, as can peppermint.

Good luck.

X-Bumble · Dec 28, 2017

Oh well, thanks anyway.

Conch · Dec 28, 2017

you can also open the panels by looking at them with headlook or head/eye tracker.

CMDR Cosmic Spacehead · Dec 28, 2017

I don't suffer from this, so forgive the possibly stupid question/statement.

Isn't this illness one of those you can train your body to overcome, with time?

Or is it more like, say, epilepsy, where it's just something you live with?

I'd like to add I got an F in biology. Lol

CMDR Cosmic Spacehead

Patau82 · Dec 28, 2017

Conch said:
you can also open the panels by looking at them with headlook or head/eye tracker.

Pushing down the middle mouse button also lets you look around, might help as you can slowly pan left and right

Hunter241 · Dec 28, 2017

I haven’t heard of Spacial sickness, but it doesn’t sound nice if I’m being honest

You could try closing your eyes when focusing in on panels. I do that in some VR games (and elite from time to time)
Might be of help

Dale Emasiri · Dec 28, 2017

A few friends have this issue with many of the first person perspective games.

Some things that you can try:

Increase FOV
Disable GUI effects or animations (can't remember the name of the option off the top of my head)
Enable "Reduce camera shake"

I don't imagine these will eliminate the issues, but worth a shot.

GunnerBill · Dec 28, 2017

X-Bumble said:
Like a lot of people, I suffer from spacial sickness (no pun intended) when playing a fps or a 3d game like this. Sadly it means I cannot play for very long without feeling very ill.

I try to mitigate this problem by putting the game into a smaller window and reducing the camera shake.

It's the sideways movement that gets me. Up and down seem to be OK. One of the biggest problems for me is when I move to the left or right screen as it swoops and makes me feel very ill.

Is there a different way I can get to those screens without them swooping horizontally.

I have car sickness bands on but the help is limited. I don't want to take any sickness pills just for a game.

Can anyone recommend anything else that may help alleviate the issues?

Is this an inner ear/balance issue that also effects you in RL (so to speak) i.e. does actual physical movement make you nauseous too?

I ask because* My wife has an inner ear 'thing' which means she occasionally finds driving etc really difficult and doesn't like any perspective changes either real or imagery.

I've seen articles online that suggest this can be "helped" by certain techniques. Will look for them.

Good luck OP.

OK: Labyrinthitis

https://www.wikihow.com/Cure-Labyrinthitis

It's option #6, the exercises that may help.

Obviously disclaimers, I'm not a Doctor!! But you can check this out for yourself if you think it's applicable.

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* Edit - reads ALL of OP!

GhostUrsa · Dec 28, 2017

I know it's slightly unrelated, but I had a similar issue when adjusting to VR (and still do slightly). Since my head is large, I have an above average IPS measurement and most VR headsets don't give me the FOV needed to mitigate this. And the few that due still give me some since my internal organs that determine equalibrium aren't registering anything.

What I found that helped (besides what has been mentioned by others) has been to train myself to look differently. Humans usually move their eyes a lot when looking around, but VR (and monitors in general during games) aren't made to compensate that. The best view is right in the middle (which is why FOV is important to calculate), which means anything you look at near the edges of the screen will be distorted. This really exacerbated my issues, and realized a change in perception was needed. I would blink more as I needed to move my head in VR for the consoles to compensate for the lack of focus change when turning (the eyes will slightly defocus when turning the head fast to make sure motion sickness doesn't kick in, then focus on a specific object near where the intended object is to help maintain balance. Can't do this in VR, as the lens don't like using peripheral vision.) When tracking targets I had to use my head more, while aiming with my face instead of glancing with my eyes. Slower, but less nauseating.

You may be able to use a similar style of training to help with motion sickness outside of VR.

Schmack · Dec 28, 2017

Just do the Smeaton runs. You can AFK long enough to avoid the nausea.

IndigoWyrd · Dec 28, 2017

Dramamine (dimenhydrinate).

$3 over-the-counter, works wonders if you suffer this problem.
Also works wonders if VR makes you want to retch.

Unfortunately for most folks who suffer from this, there is no real "cure". Various things can help, some more than others, but at the end of the day, there's no real fix for how you're wired.

Shadowdancer · Dec 28, 2017

Sit well away from your monitor, in a well lit and well ventilated room. A steady visual reference and fresh air make a great difference.

the100thmonkey · Dec 28, 2017

With Dr. Kaii's ED Profiler, you can turn camera shake off completely.

I hate camera shake, although I don't get motion sickness.

Henri · Dec 28, 2017

Heavy drinking should sort that.

Jamesey1981 · Dec 28, 2017

You could use the free look function to get to the UI panels, then you get to control the speed of the sweep, it’ll be a lot slower but probably better than it making you sick.

X-Bumble · Jan 20, 2018

I can't take sickness pills due a clash with other medication. What causes it for me is more looking to the sides and the way pressing 1 and 4 to get to them swings horizontally. I do close my eyes, but that causes similar problems after a while.

If the devs could just get a setting so that when you press 1, 2 or 4 the panels could fade in rather then swing, it would be very, very welcomed!

Senzafine · Jan 20, 2018

X-Bumble said:
I can't take sickness pills due a clash with other medication. What causes it for me is more looking to the sides and the way pressing 1 and 4 to get to them swings horizontally. I do close my eyes, but that causes similar problems after a while.

If the devs could just get a setting so that when you press 1, 2 or 4 the panels could fade in rather then swing, it would be very, very welcomed!

Have you tried using the mouse to look to the sides? That way you can control the speed and hopefully avoid what's triggering the nausea. Works for me anyway and I'm prone to motion sickness too but it's always a very individual thing as to what starts it off.
I can't imagine taking a travel sickness pill just to play a game, hyoscine hydrobromide (scopolamine) is the only thing that works for me and it has too many side effects like dry mouth and sleepyness for it to be worth it. Thankfully ED doesn't cause me any problems unlike, say, Mirror's Edge.