Speedlink BLACK WIDOW Flightstick

Speedlink BLACK WIDOW Flightstick - Anyone got one and use it in ED? Thoughts? Reviews? Feedback?
There's also the Thrustmaster T-Flight Hotas X Joystick which is listed at a similar price only I've seen too many different prices to be sure which is legit.

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Yup. Works for me. I'm sure there are better out there, but I had it kicking around from some old development work, and it seems to do the job. I think for the price, it's OK - it works well, and is 100 times better than keyboard&mouse for me.
 
Got a thrustmaster. Be aware it will take several hours/sessions to get used to the basics of the game, such as landing and fighting, after being used to m * k.
 
Thanks for the feedback. :)
I'm trying to decide what to get come month-end and this seems the best bang for buck so far.
 
Yup. Works for me. I'm sure there are better out there, but I had it kicking around from some old development work, and it seems to do the job. I think for the price, it's OK - it works well, and is 100 times better than keyboard&mouse for me.

What he said +1.

Only drawback is not enough buttons on the thing, but its really solid for the money.
 
I use the Thrust master Hotas T-Flight myself. If you want a cheap all round joystick and 12 programmable buttons its perfect at ££30-£40. It doesn't take very long to master either.
 
Got a thrustmaster. Be aware it will take several hours/sessions to get used to the basics of the game, such as landing and fighting, after being used to m * k.
Haha, thanks for the heads up. I was planning on doing the training sims once I got one anyway, now I know I made a good call there - don't want to lose my progress. :)
 
Yeah, I'd. Pay the extra 8-10 for a thrustmaster . More buttons, plus a shift key makes a world of difference.
 
What he said +1.

Only drawback is not enough buttons on the thing, but its really solid for the money.
I'm planning on Voice Attack'ing anything I can't program on the buttons; so that's a minor niggle for me.
Reviews help, but it's always nice to hear from people who actually use it every day. :) Thanks.

I use the Thrust master Hotas T-Flight myself. If you want a cheap all round joystick and 12 programmable buttons its perfect at ££30-£40. It doesn't take very long to master either.
As much as I like the Hotas, it's extremely scare here in South Africa for some reason; I don't know if it's because the market sucks, it's incredibly sort-after or old or what what. Finding one is very difficult. I really like the design of it. Can the throttle and the stick separate, or does it just look like it can?
 
Haha, thanks for the heads up. I was planning on doing the training sims once I got one anyway, now I know I made a good call there - don't want to lose my progress. :)

I also found docking much easier, was strange to fly without pressing keys. Will say one this bad about the trust master, the non-adjustable hand rest makes having small hand players struggle a little, but perfect for larger handed players.

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I'd go for the Hotas if I could; but nobody has stock and nobody seems to know when they'll get more. :(

Scan.co.uk Try them
 
I got the black widow on Sunday and after a few hours of concentrated tutorial work re-mapping buttons and testing them out it was fine. I will say I do not do the fighting bits - simple trader/explorer for me thank you. Having worked in open for a couple of days I did go back and try the basic combat tutorial again and I did have more control than with X box controller previously used and I see no problems for me in combat other than those caused by the fact that I am useless at it which is not the black widows fault. I know the thrustmaster has more buttons and also apparently the twist for z axis but I have not used one so cannot compare. All I can say is the black widow is working fine for me.
 
A B-B-Blackwidow baby? I'd go with something else.

Admittedly, I'm comparing it with the £150 X-55 I bought as a replacement, but I really didn't get along with the Blackwidow. I felt the stick only wanted to move in four directions, it lacked the buttons and hats ED needs for thrusters, power allocation, and targeting, and it broke after a month of heavy use. I've seen Youtube videos of players who are awesome with the BW, so some people must like it, but how good would they be with a proper stick?! ;)

Standard suggestions in the budget range are the T-Flight Hotas and the T-16000m, you don't get a separate throttle with the T-16000m, but I think it makes up for it with the Hall effect sensors, and you could always buy a separate throttle later. Also can the T-16000m use programming software, does any one know? As that can be useful for programming pre-set power allocation macros.
 
I use a black widow with VA and am happy with it. That said it will be upgraded at some point.
But yes, with VA it's perfectly useable :)
 
I also found docking much easier, was strange to fly without pressing keys. Will say one this bad about the trust master, the non-adjustable hand rest makes having small hand players struggle a little, but perfect for larger handed players.

Scan.co.uk Try them
They use delivery that ships to my country; but just fiddling with the prices on the delivery site made it extremely financially untenable. Likely I entered the wrong information, but they wanted 400 quid delivery fee; that was with UPS on a 10kg box. I'm in South Africa so shipping is expensive, as are our import duties. :<

Thanks though. :)

The Thrustmaster a solid stick for the price (I paid £40), and has plenty of buttons if you take time to map them:

https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=108839

This is the result of 10 months of ED with the stick.
I do like it, but I'm not going to hunt around for it too much; it's just very rare here and shipping from outside the country isn't really an option due to how far I am from the rest of the world, lol.

I got the black widow on Sunday and after a few hours of concentrated tutorial work re-mapping buttons and testing them out it was fine. I will say I do not do the fighting bits - simple trader/explorer for me thank you. Having worked in open for a couple of days I did go back and try the basic combat tutorial again and I did have more control than with X box controller previously used and I see no problems for me in combat other than those caused by the fact that I am useless at it which is not the black widows fault. I know the thrustmaster has more buttons and also apparently the twist for z axis but I have not used one so cannot compare. All I can say is the black widow is working fine for me.
I don't even know what the z-axis would be used for, LOL - as long as I can fly my ship and what not, I'll be happy. I can worry about a more expensive stick much further down the line, hehe :)

A B-B-Blackwidow baby? I'd go with something else.

Admittedly, I'm comparing it with the £150 X-55 I bought as a replacement, but I really didn't get along with the Blackwidow. I felt the stick only wanted to move in four directions, it lacked the buttons and hats ED needs for thrusters, power allocation, and targeting, and it broke after a month of heavy use. I've seen Youtube videos of players who are awesome with the BW, so some people must like it, but how good would they be with a proper stick?! ;)

Standard suggestions in the budget range are the T-Flight Hotas and the T-16000m, you don't get a separate throttle with the T-16000m, but I think it makes up for it with the Hall effect sensors, and you could always buy a separate throttle later. Also can the T-16000m use programming software, does any one know? As that can be useful for programming pre-set power allocation macros.
I've been looking at the X55 or a while, also a very rare piece here with the only places selling them right now being second-hand forums for the same price or slightly less than a new one.
It's a gorgeous looking stick and throttle though; Elite is the only game I'd use it in for now, so not much using spending a lot of money (and those are considered a lot of money over here).
Thanks for your feedback. :)


I use a black widow with VA and am happy with it. That said it will be upgraded at some point.
But yes, with VA it's perfectly useable :)
Glad to hear it. :)
 
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I guess the mighty Amazon have not yet arrived in your part of the world but even so I suggest reading the customer reviews (quite mixed, reliability does not look good) and Q&A before purchase:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Speedlink-S...-1&keywords=speedlink+black+widow+flightstick

I considered this HOTAS but personally I would find the stick and throttle too close together. You could always get two sticks and use one for throttle. Logitech 3D is another alternative.
 
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