Spring 2022 dlc

becks474

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Swjosdotschka said:
So, if "uproar" or high reqiests or mod downloads are an indicator, I suspect this:
  • Emus will come (because the Cassowary was wished to be an Emu)
  • Przewalski horses are a save bet (very much loved Mod)
  • I fear for the Porcupine (only popular as of late, isn't it?)
  • If everything goes well, birds and primates might still come.
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Personally I would not give to much on downloads from single mods. I think some people just want some explanation for the lechwe, buffalo and caiman. I just think these animals just fitted good and perhaps the frontier developers just wanted to do them or have personal preferences to these animals. We just have to accept that our meta wishlist is a good place for frontier to see what are popular species but the list is not taken before every pack to take the top 4/7 of the suitable animals. And this is a good thing in my opinion. I like surprises like the nile lechwe.
1. and 2. I think Emu and Przewalski Horse are safe bets. They are popular animals in General
3. There is no real porcupine mod, is it? So it cannot be used as a indicator. And the porcupine is on a top place on the meta list since a long time.
4. I already said this in another thread. I believe there could be still technical issues with flying and brachiation. Frontier would not let out such Packs without a reason because they promise a maximum of buyers. So flying birds and more monkeys could come only if these Problems are solved probably.
 
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Sahara

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Bearcat9948 said:
Yeah it was cut from the aquatic pack. But the capybara is also massively popular, the stick insect is not. So it's possible they cut it, decided to readd it, and we found the files but it was totally unrelated, and not a signifier of it being added. Just coincidence.
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How do we know it was supposed to be in the aquatic pack?
 

Doran

Doran
Signs for current pack are very similar to aquatic ones. They just reused same style later in wetlands pack. Flexible generic style.

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Stick insect with heavy themed style can be aswell forgotten, unless they use for some reason australia pack sign in other pack.
 

biggest_dreamer

biggest_dreamer
This is me thinking out loud and maybe my train of thought isn't apparent or even all that logical, but... now that we know definitively that the stick insect wasn't representative of future plans, the concept of an Islands Pack has dropped a bit in likelihood. That, in turn, seems to reinforce the likelihood of an Asia 4+1 being next up. I don't think there's any conceivable scenario where two of those aren't the Amur leopard and Przewalski's horse (who would actually be our #1 currently if you ranked the leopards at the subspecies level), so that just leaves 2 slots for the entire rest of Asia. I'm glad we got the ASCO and crane knocked out of the running, at least. But jeez, two slots. And a lot of my top choices don't strike me as likely to show up in one of the more commonly discussed potential biome packs, so these two slots are really their last shot.

...I can't stress enough just how much I wish they'd just stick with animal packs. The difference between 15 and 21 more habitat species doesn't sound like that much, but it really would make a world of difference. This is all just assuming that there's only 3 more packs, of course. I certainly don't want to even entertain anything beyond that.
 

yoav_r

yoav_r
biggest_dreamer said:
This is me thinking out loud and maybe my train of thought isn't apparent or even all that logical, but... now that we know definitively that the stick insect wasn't representative of future plans, the concept of an Islands Pack has dropped a bit in likelihood. That, in turn, seems to reinforce the likelihood of an Asia 4+1 being next up. I don't think there's any conceivable scenario where two of those aren't the Amur leopard and Przewalski's horse (who would actually be our #1 currently if you ranked the leopards at the subspecies level), so that just leaves 2 slots for the entire rest of Asia. I'm glad we got the ASCO and crane knocked out of the running, at least. But jeez, two slots. And a lot of my top choices don't strike me as likely to show up in one of the more commonly discussed potential biome packs, so these two slots are really their last shot.

...I can't stress enough just how much I wish they'd just stick with animal packs. The difference between 15 and 21 more habitat species doesn't sound like that much, but it really would make a world of difference. This is all just assuming that there's only 3 more packs, of course. I certainly don't want to even entertain anything beyond that.
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I'd really like these slots to be western asia. However I think a desert pack os also very likely.
 

Bearcat9948

Bearcat9948
biggest_dreamer said:
This is me thinking out loud and maybe my train of thought isn't apparent or even all that logical, but... now that we know definitively that the stick insect wasn't representative of future plans, the concept of an Islands Pack has dropped a bit in likelihood. That, in turn, seems to reinforce the likelihood of an Asia 4+1 being next up. I don't think there's any conceivable scenario where two of those aren't the Amur leopard and Przewalski's horse (who would actually be our #1 currently if you ranked the leopards at the subspecies level), so that just leaves 2 slots for the entire rest of Asia. I'm glad we got the ASCO and crane knocked out of the running, at least. But jeez, two slots. And a lot of my top choices don't strike me as likely to show up in one of the more commonly discussed potential biome packs, so these two slots are really their last shot.

...I can't stress enough just how much I wish they'd just stick with animal packs. The difference between 15 and 21 more habitat species doesn't sound like that much, but it really would make a world of difference. This is all just assuming that there's only 3 more packs, of course. I certainly don't want to even entertain anything beyond that.
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You're absolutely right, and frankly it's only 1 slot if they were able to figure out how to get gibbons working and proper brachiation, which I really hope they were.

So the last spot likely goes to wolverine, raccoon dog, markhor, takin, saiga or golden pheasant in my mind.
 

Fabian

Fabian
biggest_dreamer said:
I don't think there's any conceivable scenario where two of those aren't the Amur leopard and Przewalski's horse (who would actually be our #1 currently if you ranked the leopards at the subspecies level), so that just leaves 2 slots for the entire rest of Asia.
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Then again... both Amur Leopard and Przewalski's Horse could also just as well be top candidates for an Endangered Species/Conservation Pack; both are actually among the first that come to my mind when I try to think of species that could be in such a DLC. That would also be a pack that has been consistently in high demand since the conception of the game, and might be very likely to make it into the lifecycle of the game.

I also thought for the longest time that a general Asia DLC would have to come at some point this year, but seeing three Asian animals, two of which relatively highly requested, in the Wetlands Pack makes me hesitate whether that's really a route they are going to take, or if more Asian animals will come through different packs. I just have a feeling they might be done with continental packs for now.

yoav_r said:
I'd really like these slots to be western asia. However I think a desert pack os also very likely.
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My feeling is that an Asia DLC (if it's 4+1) would be more east-focused, and some western Asia animals would rather come through a desert pack. Let's hope at least one of them is an animal pack so we actually have a chance of getting some animals from the Middle East!

Bearcat9948 said:
You're absolutely right, and frankly it's only 1 slot if they were able to figure out how to get gibbons working and proper brachiation, which I really hope they were.

So the last spot likely goes to wolverine, raccoon dog, markhor, takin, saiga or golden pheasant in my mind.
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If it's really Przewalski's Horse + Amur Leopard in a 4+1 Asia DLC, I think wolverine plus one primate would be very likely candidates to add to that roster, given that the wolverine has been so highly requested ever since the Arctic Pack, basically, and that we haven't gotten a primate since the rather poorly received Proboscis Monkey in what would then be at least five packs ago (if we don't count our free lemur). But I'd really love to get a takin tbh, if only to have a little more diversity for Himalayan-themed zoo sections.
 

PnGLINNyo

PnGLINNyo
becks474 said:
Gibbons could be implemented in something like an aboreal pack together with other species. If brachiation can be implemented in a good way such a pack would make sense to bring more species using this feature at one time.
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Ikr, I've been implementing this since patch 1.6 releases. Like my go to DLC for arboreal pack would be a standard pack with the following feats:

New improved climbing with brachiation animations

Lar gibbon
Goodfellow tree kangaroo
Fossa
Two toed sloth
Panther chameleon

Rainforest building sets (based on leaks)
 

NZFanatic

NZFanatic
Honestly, adding the wolverine to an Asia DLC feels like a bad idea, but it's the kind of thing I expect Frontier would do.

Can't deny it's high on the meta wishlist. I wanted it myself back at the start, but for me at least I'm no longer super interested in it. Would 100% prefer something like the raccoon dog.

Part of the trouble with the meta-wishlist is of course that a lot of the early votes probably aren't as popular now as they were when they were made. I do wonder what the list would look like if it was scrapped and redone from scratch, with everyone submitting a whole new list.
 

Markiz

Markiz
To be honest it doesn't really sit well with Asian pack. But I would still include it since it was skipped in both NA and EU packs. That is of course if we don't get smth like Taiga/Mountain biome pack down the line
 
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Bearcat9948

Bearcat9948
NZFanatic said:
Honestly, adding the wolverine to an Asia DLC feels like a bad idea, but it's the kind of thing I expect Frontier would do.

Can't deny it's high on the meta wishlist. I wanted it myself back at the start, but for me at least I'm no longer super interested in it. Would 100% prefer something like the raccoon dog.

Part of the trouble with the meta-wishlist is of course that a lot of the early votes probably aren't as popular now as they were when they were made. I do wonder what the list would look like if it was scrapped and redone from scratch, with everyone submitting a whole new list.
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Given the fact that they develop these dlc themes nearly a year in advance I'm not sure it would help at this point.
 

paul78

paul78
I always figured this game had a set roadmap and all animals were preselected. Maybe not all but most for sure then. Not complaining as 97% of the roster has been satisfactory imo.
 

biggest_dreamer

biggest_dreamer
I can definitely think of a few places where animals we've gotten in-game would affect another's placement, either positively or negatively. Like, since we got the white rhino I imagine that at least a portion (but certainly not all, maybe not even most) of the votes for black rhino would consider it "good enough" and allocate their hopes elsewhere. Similarly, now that we've gotten the capybara, I could imagine people might be more willing to express support for the Patagonian mara or an agouti now that the most important South American rodent is out of the way and there's no risk of splitting votes. Or perhaps with some people's thoughts on the likelihood of aviaries seemingly flip-flopping every week, we'd see more or less non-aviary birds getting votes. Definitely interesting to think about.

NZFanatic said:
Honestly, adding the wolverine to an Asia DLC feels like a bad idea, but it's the kind of thing I expect Frontier would do.
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Strongly agree with both points here. Adding a wolverine to an Asia pack feels too simple for Frontier to ignore, and I've always felt very "blah" about the species. Or, if they were an inevitability, I wish we would have gotten them in NA or Europe (over the arctic fox or badger respectively) because it feels like Asia has so much more to offer.
 

yoav_r

yoav_r
biggest_dreamer said:
I can definitely think of a few places where animals we've gotten in-game would affect another's placement, either positively or negatively. Like, since we got the white rhino I imagine that at least a portion (but certainly not all, maybe not even most) of the votes for black rhino would consider it "good enough" and allocate their hopes elsewhere. Similarly, now that we've gotten the capybara, I could imagine people might be more willing to express support for the Patagonian mara or an agouti now that the most important South American rodent is out of the way and there's no risk of splitting votes. Or perhaps with some people's thoughts on the likelihood of aviaries seemingly flip-flopping every week, we'd see more or less non-aviary birds getting votes. Definitely interesting to think about.
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I agree. In the meta wishlist I voted for Persian fallow deer and Nubian Ibex, because they are native to my country, but after the Europe pack we've got the Alpine ibex and European fallow deer, which are near identical to the species I requested, so as for as usability in the game goes, for me I got the species I wanted, even if technically they are not the same.
 
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