Stamina gene modification?

Hello! what's the point of the stamina in this game and why should i spend my gene modification for better stamina? right now stamina recover seems very usesless but maybe am i losing something?

Thx
 
Stamina is basically the stat used by your dinosaurs as part of hunting. A carnivore uses stamina in order to successfully hunt its prey while a herbivore uses stamina to escape predation. Higher stamina increases the odds of a successful hunt/escape depending on the species. The Fitness trait you see when synthesizing eggs is ideal for hadrosaurs, for instance as they are more likely to be able to escape if hunted, or it makes a carnivore a better hunter and/or stronger in dominance fights.
 
Wait, you saying stamina has impact in dominance too? could you explain ir better please? because the game doesn't explain how dominance works at all.

I knew that a higher dominance dino will fight to become the alpha. But i've seen my lesser dominance dinos still fighting the higher one and i don't understand why, stamina has something to do whith that?

Maybe i sould do a new theat asking frontier about the dominance system... because is very confusing
 
Wait, you saying stamina has impact in dominance too? could you explain ir better please? because the game doesn't explain how dominance works at all.

I knew that a higher dominance dino will fight to become the alpha. But i've seen my lesser dominance dinos still fighting the higher one and i don't understand why, stamina has something to do whith that?

Maybe i sould do a new theat asking frontier about the dominance system... because is very confusing

Of course animals use stamina when fighting. Just like humans...
 
Wait, you saying stamina has impact in dominance too? could you explain ir better please? because the game doesn't explain how dominance works at all.

I knew that a higher dominance dino will fight to become the alpha. But i've seen my lesser dominance dinos still fighting the higher one and i don't understand why, stamina has something to do whith that?

Maybe i sould do a new theat asking frontier about the dominance system... because is very confusing

The game is really bad about explaining Dominance which leads to a lot of people having huge issues with their animals fighting constantly. Genetics will have a big impact on their dominance stats, both Social & Anti-Social, for instance add dominance as does dinosaur infamy. In the case of infamy, this might be an area to double check as this could be a potential area causing the fighting. Releasing an alpha with higher combat stats in addition to dominance should overall help quell the group, but I would release the alpha first that way it gains its alpha status right away and only lower dominance pack members.

Higher dominance members will constantly challenge the alpha to a fight to try and take the crown even if the alpha repeatedly beats them, its like they are possessed and compelled to do it. All of this is why injuries were such a pain at launch, aggressive and social I believe had the dominance granted reduced in Update 1 to try and combat this as well as the % of injuries being reduced and now the MVU can be assigned to a Ranger Post to automatically treat Minor Injuries which thankfully should be the end of this madness.

Stamina, on the other hand, while not a direct combat gene gives the animal endurance which is often associated with a better fitness level that can give it an edge in combat. Say both animals have equal stats aside from one having better stamina, odds are the one with better stamina will prevail. There is a little bit of unpredictability now so a win isn't a guarantee, but it is far more likely stamina will tilt the tides of battle.

Also, you can't really be blamed for not knowing, it took the community ages to try and figure out this system. A lot of trial and error plus Frontier employees dropping bits and pieces of the puzzle along the way is the only reason we got this far.
 
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Thanks Jurassic_DX, but Frontier, do you think it's normal that a user like me needs to enter in this forum to know how it works this really important mechanic of the game because it is not explained at all in the game?

Anyway... what i don't understand is why when the higher dominance one becomes the alpha with time the dinos with less dominance starts to fight again with him ¿that doesn't make sense right?
 
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Jens Erik

Senior Community Manager
Frontier
Anyway... what i don't understand is why when the higher dominance one becomes the alpha with time the dinos with less dominance starts to fight again with him ¿that doesn't make sense right?
It usually depends on how close their Dominance stats are. And keep in mind that their Dominance will also be affected by various traits.
 
It usually depends on how close their Dominance stats are. And keep in mind that their Dominance will also be affected by various traits.
their dominance are not close, and the ones with traits are the alpha already (that's why he has more dominance...) maybe the stamina could impact this?
 
their dominance are not close, and the ones with traits are the alpha already (that's why he has more dominance...) maybe the stamina could impact this?

I don't believe stamina adds dominance, there will still be the occasional dominance displays, but they shouldn't be fighting to cause injuries with your alpha anymore. There are positive and negative traits that add dominance though, so maybe there is one or two of your pack that might be off. There is a cumulative dominance variable you'll see in the UI of your dino, but oftentimes the traits and infamy appear not to factor into it as well. Here is a brief list of traits that give dominance:
  • Aggressive
  • Anti-Social
  • Social
  • Attack
  • Defense
Fit/Stamina are the traits I am not sure add dominance. Might take some time to resolve your problem, if you need to sell some of your pack and replace them with better traits, you should do that. The Alpha, aside from releasing first, should have the highest combat stats, in addition to its dominance. If things continue to persist, we would have to see some images/gameplay or perhaps there is a bug somewhere that needs reporting.
 

Jens Erik

Senior Community Manager
Frontier
I don't believe stamina adds dominance, there will still be the occasional dominance displays, but they shouldn't be fighting to cause injuries with your alpha anymore. There are positive and negative traits that add dominance though, so maybe there is one or two of your pack that might be off. There is a cumulative dominance variable you'll see in the UI of your dino, but oftentimes the traits and infamy appear not to factor into it as well. Here is a brief list of traits that give dominance:
  • Aggressive
  • Anti-Social
  • Social
  • Attack
  • Defense
This is also a good point: it could be some social traits impacting your dinosaurs' Dominance. If the fights for dominance become a problem, you could always sell off the offending dinosaur and replace it with a new one?
 
I said a lot of times that the other dinos don't have traits wich affects dominance. I'm doing test and i am confirming that the other dinos attack the alpha when he is lower on stamina. so... i still don't know how stamina really impact in the game
 
I take this opportunity to raise a point which seems important to me and which deserves correction: currently the "fit" gene is useless because its effect is not particularly useful for hunting. the fact that a dinosaur recovers its endurance rate faster will not allow it to sow a predator in the event of a hunt. It would have been much more useful and interesting if the genetic modification effect REDUCED the LOST stamina rate while the dinosaur was running.
Or that the gene gives both effect.
 
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