Star as satellite of another Star?

[Aritok]

I am really new in doing exploration in Elite. This is my first trip.
But i stumbled over something that i never saw so far.

I always thought that the Stars are on the left in the System Map, and on the right are the satellites. But these are normally planets, moons, ...
But i had one system with a star between the planets. Meaning a Star as satellite on another star.

Is this common? I mean, it is a little dangerous, when you think you approach a planet, and it is a instead a star.

 

[iain666]

It's fairly common. Most often they will be brown dwarf stars, but if the primary star is particularly high mass they can be M class or (or possibly even, if very rarely, heavier - I couldn't swear that I've ever seen that though).

Protostar systems will also regularly have several T-Tauris orbiting in this configuration.

 

[SpaceMonkeyz]

It's fairly common. Most often they will be brown dwarf stars, but if the primary star is particularly high mass they can be M class or (or possibly even, if very rarely, heavier - I couldn't swear that I've ever seen that though).

Protostar systems will also regularly have several T-Tauris orbiting in this configuration.

Yes this is true. That ringed neutron I found awhile back had an O star primary and various M, K, and the neutron as satellites.

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I am really new in doing exploration in Elite. This is my first trip.
But i stumbled over something that i never saw so far.

I always thought that the Stars are on the left in the System Map, and on the right are the satellites. But these are normally planets, moons, ...
But i had one system with a star between the planets. Meaning a Star as satellite on another star.

Is this common? I mean, it is a little dangerous, when you think you approach a planet, and it is a instead a star.

The nice thing is, if it is a star instead of planet you can tell a long way off. it starts scanning + stars are way brighter!

 

[Aritok]

Not when it is only a T Tauri Star [smile]. It looked like any other planet on the first view.

 

[Straha Yeagar]

Like this?

 

[iain666]

ringed neutron

That is the other thing - you only get rings if the star is in line as a 'planet'.

You can have two stars being orbited by the same mass of fragments at the same radius - if one is in the column on the left and the other is a satellite on the right the former will have nothing rendered in game beyond a handful of belt clusters that you can't see without flying up to them and dropping out of supercruise while the latter will have a proper ring.

 

[varonica]

Not when it is only a T Tauri Star [smile]. It looked like any other planet on the first view.

I have seen ringed stars as satellites of mains stars, with ringed planets as moons, with the ringed planets having their own moons. It can get very...complicated!

Universal cartographics is a good source of interesting information, lets see if this works;

Yep that's a nice one.

https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php/50952-Universal-Cartographics-Galactic-Record-Breakers

 

[SpaceMonkeyz]

I have seen ringed stars as satellites of mains stars, with ringed planets as moons, with the ringed planets having their own moons. It can get very...complicated!

Universal cartographics is a good source of interesting information, lets see if this works;

http://universalcartographics.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/CD-26-1339-B-2.jpg

Yep that's a nice one.

https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php/50952-Universal-Cartographics-Galactic-Record-Breakers

It's The Robin's Egg Nebula System!

 

[varonica]

That is the other thing - you only get rings if the star is in line as a 'planet'.

I think in Universal Cartographics there is one primary star with rings, but it does beg the question, are they rings or belts? I would suggest it's a general rule with exceptions. For instance if you had a ringed star in orbit around a non-ringed star and the system was disrupted by a close pass by of another stellar object, say black hole, then the ringed star could get ejected from the system and become an primary star itself.

 

[iain666]

I think in Universal Cartographics there is one primary star with rings, but it does beg the question, are they rings or belts?

They use the same data structure in the journals when you scan them, I know that much, so FDev treat them as the same thing some of the time...

If there's at least one primary that shows an actual ring in game then maybe that is possible, although given that just one seems exceptionally rare I'm guessing it's a hand-authored system and not the Forge's handiwork.