General / Off-Topic Star Trek Humpback Whales. A question.

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The Whales might have been then the most advanced life form on the planet (maybe they still are?).

I miss old Star Trek :(
Spindle neurons and apicl dendrites.
"What is more, whales appear to have had these cells twice as long as humans, and early estimates suggest they may have three times as many spindle cells as us, even accounting for the fact that whale brains are larger than ours." Link

Personally, I think we're head and shoulders above other animals in our multi-layered, redundant awareness. Intelligence is exactly how we got ourselves into this whole mess. Stubbornness, ironically, is a sign of emotional intelligence. Irrational behavior, fantasy-induced selfishness...we see far but still not far enough. Most people are terrified of a a united earth, for example, despite the necessity being obvious and eventual. Making it to a type-one society is the hard part, type two and three are easy after that.
I measure intelligence as how much thought you can think within a given timeframe. If you can do ten minutes worth of thought in a minute, you're ten times as smart as the average. The ability to pick out the most useful or relevant potential scenarios from a "coumpound eye" to make swift, correct decisions would commonly be described as intelligent behavior, whereas creativity depends on considering more scenarios from the "compound eye", less concerned with correctness but occasionally coming to something better circularly than the benefits of linear intelligence will allow. Creativity and intelligence aren't mutually exclusive, but they don't share the brain well. The apex, then is the corpus callosum, uniting the benefits of both hemispheres for pure mechanical thinking ability. The spindle cells mostly dictate emotional intelligence which is a double edged sword. To much sadness and you can become useless. To much anger and you put yourself in jeopardy.
Strnge place for a rant but I think it fits.:eek:
 
I suspect the writers were strongly influenced by Noam Chomsky's ideal that the fundamentals of language are hardwired...scientific consensus is still unclear on this, but it does at least seem plausible.

In the context of the film, it's quite possible that these aliens had intermittent contact with humpback whales for millions of years, constructed probes to rapidly learn the basics of the whale languages they'd encounter when they arrived, and had no reason to anticipate the rise of humanity (anatomically modern humans only having existed for maybe 2-10% as long as humpback whales), the sudden extinction of the sentient species they knew of, and failed to include contingencies for them. The assumptions required for the chain of events presented may have been reasonable ones for a species that had experienced nothing analogous to the rapidity of human societal evolution, or the on going extinction event humanity is responsible for.

Or maybe they were just writing a story and didn't fuss too much over the details...

This might not be a popular opinion looking at the other replies on this thread, but is it possible that the Star Trek movies after the Wrath of Khan weren't.. erm.. particularly that good? I mean even the ending of the Wrath of Khan with Scotty playing the bagpipes as Spock was flushed out the tubes was a bit over the top.

Maybe they were just writing a story and didn't fuss too much over the details.

It has been a while since I saw the movie, so maybe someone could explain the logic of the plot to me...

I went over to someone's house. I knocked on the door but nobody was in, so I blew up their house.
 
Battle Star Galactica is about 40 years old. Old story re-vamped. There is no original thought any more.

Good lord Arry!! The new version of BSG is fantastic; it is my favourite TV series and has the best ending of any show that I've ever seen (slightly out doing breaking bad). If you haven't seen it then watch it!!
 
Good lord Arry!! The new version of BSG is fantastic; it is my favourite TV series and has the best ending of any show that I've ever seen (slightly out doing breaking bad). If you haven't seen it then watch it!!

OK, that's just blatant trolling. Next you'll be saying Lost was planned. ;)
 
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