Stop moving threads out of our reach

[Ashley Barley]

At the risk of pouring fuel onto the fire, this thread really belongs in the Support and Suggestions sub-forum.

In all seriousness this is my fault for not communicating properly the parameters of each of the sub-forums to the mods as the forum has grown, which has meant that there are slightly different interpretations within the team as to what each sub-forum is for. So the blame is entirely on me for the confusion regarding this.

In this specific circumstance it is absolutely fine to discuss elements of the alpha in Gameplay and Features in a more general or abstract sense- so if you're discussing the flight model or a specific role, using information from the alpha as a case study, for example. If you're providing your own feedback about an element of the alpha though then that belongs in the alpha forum.

 

[Mars]

I guess the mods use their own common sense when they move threads.

There could be an argument to say that as we are all mostly rather mature types we have our own common sense about where we chose to post in the first place.

If a thread get abusive, of course, mod away, but barring that maybe a lighter touch could work?

 

[OillyRag]

In this specific circumstance it is absolutely fine to discuss elements of the alpha in Gameplay and Features in a more general or abstract sense- so if you're discussing the flight model or a specific role, using information from the alpha as a case study, for example. If you're providing your own feedback about an element of the alpha though then that belongs in the alpha forum.

Thanks Ashley.

Solved

 

[Styggron]

Hello Paul, I replied to your post in the support thread but I placed it here for the benefit of people that may be looking for your ramming thread.

Hello PaulJ2303

Your thread is in the Gameplay/features area.
http://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=11619

Please note it can take several days for a MOD to see your request depending who you PMd your request to. You can imagine our inboxes. Real life sometimes prevents us from our online duties.

I would perhaps recommend in future you CC it to 2-3 to catch a wider audience. That might help.

Your thread is back to the area you can access so all should be well I trust.​

 

[Alien]

Hello Paul, I replied to your post in the support thread but I placed it here for the benefit of people that may be looking for your ramming thread.

This comment scores an "Ooo er, Missus" on the Double-Entendre scale

 

[Dejay]

I really liked the ramming thread. Good it's back
I know we outside the alpha / DDF are second class citizens, but it would still be nice to be able to discuss just about anything.

 

[Styggron]

I really liked the ramming thread. Good it's back
I know we outside the alpha / DDF are second class citizens, but it would still be nice to be able to discuss just about anything.

No such thing as second class citizens. Please do not see it as that. It is simply an attempt to keep order in the threads.

I've had several requests from people making OPs that I move some of their threads to the Alpha forum and we have in those cases. Other ones are not as clear cut but the actions are out of trying to make things tidy and not anything to do with hiding anything from anyone. Plus.....moving of a thread is easily fixed if there is an issue

Of course you can discuss general Alpha issues here as per Ashley's post above.

 

[Dejay]

No such thing as second class citizens

Yeah sorry that was fishing for sympathy / straw man, shouldn't have posted that

 

[Amorelia]

I agree with the OP, it's not good "Netiquette" to move a thread to another area that's not accessible to the original poster or other contributors who can't see replies (even worse, leave its ghost in the original forum with the "moved" tag redirecting us to an inaccessible forum). Only exception is flame-bait which may need to be quickly moved to a moderator-review forum.

Please remember, the Mods are all volunteers on here and we all work and have family's etc so it may take a little while to get to things.

Fair enough. I suggest a "no move" policy until you figure it out.

If it's so popular just now, why not add a "public alpha discussion" forum?

 

[Styggron]

If it's so popular just now, why not add a "public alpha discussion" forum?

We do, always did. It's here.
http://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=9270

 

[Patrick_68000]

Hi,

I started a thread the other day called "The problem with ramming", I came to access it yesterday and found it had been moved.
that's fine but I believe it has been moved into the alpha forum, which I don't have access to.

There is another thread called "MP Alpha too good to let go?" started by -0- it too has been moved into the alpha forum.

Why ?

As far as my thread is concerned, yes it discussed gameplay in the alpha but does that mean that every thread that even discusses the alpha will be moved out of our reach? that cant be right.
I cant afford to pay the Alpha price but i am a kickstarter backer to the gamma level, surely I should be able to at least discuss the alpha without having mine and other peoples threads pulled out from under me.

And why move a thread that does nothing but praise the alpha out of our reach ? as with mine it isn't a discussion about technical bugs or stuff, they are both just general discussion threads.

This has really annoyed me I have to say so just to reiterate my point:

JUST BECAUSE I CANT AFFORD THE ALPHA I SHOULDN'T BE STOPPED FROM DISCUSSING IT

Question: why dont you contact the Mods
Answer: Ive already contacted the Mods ... i got no response.

It is exactly the same thing for me. I have create a thread on Sidewinder in rotation in the alpha, for comparison with spaceships, in rotation in FE2. My thread was moved in the forum Alpha. And I have no access to the forum. Thus I cannot see the diverse opinion on my criticism. Apparently to emit constructive criticisms on the alpha, and well it is necessary to pay.

 

[Patrick_68000]

Hi Paul,

Sorry, I've only just got to your message on this. my inbox was pretty full this morning and I've got to your VM now.

As you can imagine at the moment with the Alphas upon us the forum is very busy and we are constantly trying to keep it as uncluttered as possible so forum members can find the information they are looking for as quickly as possible.

Duplicate threads and threads which may not be entirely relevant to the section it was created in will tend to get merged and moved.

The problem we are finding is the large influx of threads being generated that either need to be merged into existing threads on the same subject or they need to be moved to the relevant section.

In this case where a thread has been moved to a section where the OP has not the required access to it's something we need to look into. I've raised this thread with the Mod team and one of us will get back to you.

Please remember, the Mods are all volunteers on here and we all work and have family's etc so it may take a little while to get to things.

This is exactly the same for me. I created a thread on the Sidewinder in rotation in the alpha, for comparison with the spacecraft, in rotation in FE2.

My thread has been moved to the Alpha forum. And I do not have access to the forum. So I can not see the various opinions on my review.

Apparently to provide constructive criticism on alpha, well you must pay ?

 

[Kroy]

Don't forget to check external non-official, third-party forums and news-sites such as www.reddit.com/r/elitedangerous and discuss there. You up vote the topics you like, and repeat topics are (currently) not an issue. A lot of news from all "levels" of the forum are covered over there. There are lots of non-alpha (and even non-beta) contributors and lurkers.

 

[Red Line]

To answer your question, To me the obvious answer to this would be to have an "arcade" in the space stations where you can play games.

you could even have to pay for lives, and then when shot the money you paid, or a proportion of it, goes to the other arcade player who shot you.

it also would allow friends to play together who otherwise are at a different area in space assuming the spacestations were all linked up via an internet type hub **

Hey um-

**small amount of suspension of disbelief needed here to allow lag free gaming accross the universe**.

Oh.

Since it has been brought it up, a while ago me and a friend were working on a semi-hard sf setting that had instantaneous communication networks while still provoking an atmosphere of isolation in deep space.

We settled for quantum communication satellites.
Each comsat held a 'core' that shared an identical state with its counterparts. When data went into one comsat all the others in the network would immediately receive the same data. Due to the delicate nature of each 'core' comsats had to be placed in orbits that featured the least interference, preferably in the perpetual shadow of some large celestial object.
This meant that spaceships could not accommodate such devices, and had to rely on other means of communication that were limited to the speed of light.
If a spaceship was to send a message 30 ly to a planetary system that had a comsat, and the closest comsat was 4 ly away, it would take a minimum of 4 solar years for the message to arrive at that planetary system.

Elite has hyperspace, so whatevers.

 

[Sir.Tj]

As this has been resolved I'm going to close the thread. :smilie: