Yaffle
Volunteer Moderator
Anybody that calls me a Pig will be reported.
Cheers Cmdr's
It could Snowball.
Anybody that calls me a Pig will be reported.
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In general I'd say it's never ok to use a word... any word... in a way that belittles or generalizes someone or their opinions. Griefer can be just as toxic as carebear in this regard.
People are free to disagree about play styles, but it's not ok to use words that only serve to ratchet up the noise level in the discussion and do nothing to help both sides gain an appreciation for the other's viewpoint.
I like "at"...Well ok, I see what you're saying, but I've always seen "griefer" as an accurate - you might almost say technical - description of someone who's objective in a game is simply to cause grief. That's how the term came about after all. If you consider it, let us say, inappropriate, what term would you recommend as a substitute, given that the very concept is a negative one.
It should go without saying, nothing personal intended.
On the whole I've tried to steer away from using the term carebear although I have ended up using it out of frustration.... eventually I ask myself why am I sticking to the spirit of the forum rules when others don't.
When I've used the term carebear its been as adjective or an ad-verb rather than a noun and I suppose its a catch all term that could describe a type of play which is linear, unchallenging, or perhaps just safe in a game with adult themes. For example, it might be used to describe someone who didn't like fighting in a game with War in the title.
... this is a case of the chickens coming home to roost.
Its just a shame that wasn't seen as so objectionable when it was griefer this and griefer that. Where were the objections then?
Each to their own right? Be nice if others here paid everyone the same courtesy.
But in closing. If its okay to use griefer in the right context then its my contention that the term carebear should also be fair to use but I'm happy to never use or hear either term again. We can only hope![]()
I like "at"...
Just as the correct use of griefer is permissible as a descriptor (i.e. not for those that enjoy PvP, but for those that enjoy being ats), surely carebear is equally permissible as a descriptor?
I've become increasingly carebear over my time on these forums, despite currently hanging around Freeport (although as I'm not being instanced with players, it's carebear heaven).
He also expressed unhappy thoughts about 'griefer' and ever since then i've been trying to come up with a term that means the same but isn't out and out obscene... no luck so far i'm afraid.
A Greek word: Antagonistēs or the English term: Antagonist.
Definition of Antagonist. In literature, an Antagonist is a character or a group of characters which stand in opposition to the Protagonist or the main character. The term Antagonist comes from Greek word “Antagonistēs” that means opponent, competitor or rival.
It is close enough for Government work and is quite polite and politically correct.![]()
Most people on these forums are extremely helpful and polite. I've enjoyed my time on the Frontier boards more than any other and I hope that it continues to be a place for constructive, mature debate.
Edit: Moved to General
Keep in mind, you're not being stopped from expressing your opinion - you're entirely free to do that - just find other more respectful and less broadly ambiguous terms.
So - last words in and I'll close out in an hour or so.
I find that it's more of a hugbox than anything else and anyone with a conflicting opinion is instantly shot down.
Oh and certain mods deleting posts because they don't know the meaning of certain words and assume they're offensive.
Exactly what "more respectful and less broadly ambiguous terms." ?
Under the circumstances I think it's a fair question.
Forums dedicated to old school kind of games with mature audiences tend to be less restrictive and more lightly moderated than typical forums, but for some reason the situation seems to be the reverse here. A peculiar phenomenon. When mild words from basic gamer lingo are banned, I get the impression that users will be banned as well if they make any politically incorrect statements. I wish more people would simply grow a thicker skin and choose not to be offended by what strangers on the Internet say to them. Besides, the ignore list is there for a reason.