Powerplay Stupid Situation - played PowerPlay and got Bounty

InDigital · Nov 12, 2015

I don't want to tell My PowerPlay Playing Strategy to everyone but it should have 3 different ships in 2 different locations.
One of them is very important for me and i need to access station here all the time!

Stupid situation happened - Other Faction enemy droped me from SuperCruise and started to attack but i did not scaned it and just defended myself.
I got bounty for 6 days by killing him in location where i have to be all the time.
So i can't do PowerPlay all week long because of this! :/

It can't be solved buy paying bounty anymore and therefore it is absurd. Why?
Because if you get interdicted by Other Faction (Enemy) it is 100% sure it is going to attack you.
And you know you have to retract hardpoints and do defense. It is automatic instinct!

Please Frontier make something smart about that!
Thank You!

CMDR G.KAULINSH

CalpinStarrunner · Nov 12, 2015

Same thing happened....
Bought a hauler and cruised in to pick up my ship.
Expected to bee shot to pieces by station police, but survived. Got in without a scan.
If I was to be killed, I would only loose a insurance of a hauler (credit wise).

Anyways....boosted out with all claims, honor and credits intact

Mephane · Nov 12, 2015

OP, you could have stopped shooting once you got the initial bounty for assault. That would be over much more quickly than the bounty for destroying them.

InDigital · Nov 12, 2015

I know but i usually kill enemy attacking me first and it should be like that.
It does not make any sense getting bounty because i'm defending.
Especially if enemy is from oposite faction.

kofeyh · Nov 12, 2015

InDigital said:
I don't want to tell My PowerPlay Playing Strategy to everyone but it should have 3 different ships in 2 different locations.
One of them is very important for me and i need to access station here all the time!

Stupid situation happened - Other Faction enemy droped me from SuperCruise and started to attack but i did not scaned it and just defended myself.
I got bounty for 6 days by killing him in location where i have to be all the time.
So i can't do PowerPlay all week long because of this! :/

It can't be solved buy paying bounty anymore and therefore it is absurd. Why?
Because if you get interdicted by Other Faction (Enemy) it is 100% sure it is going to attack you.
And you know you have to retract hardpoints and do defense. It is automatic instinct!

Please Frontier make something smart about that!
Thank You!

CMDR G.KAULINSH

Why did you shoot a ship that wasn't identified as wanted? You absolutely could have chafed, retracted weapons and left. If the system is so important, why on earth would you just start blazing away?

I don't get it. I'm sorry you made a mistake. You'll have plenty of time to learn from it. Fly safe.

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InDigital said:
I know but i usually kill enemy attacking me first and it should be like that.
It does not make any sense getting bounty because i'm defending.
Especially if enemy is from oposite faction.

No, it makes sense. You kill someone (NPC or CMDR) that is not wanted, you get a bounty. Ensure you have report crimes on, so they become wanted. Then you can blast away. There is a real penalty for unsanctioned killing.

khemsa · Nov 12, 2015

Automatic instinct you say? Do you also kill system defense ships whenever they interdict you?
Don't be silly. Just submit, chaff and boost away.

telperion · Nov 12, 2015

InDigital said:
Stupid situation happened - Other Faction enemy droped me from SuperCruise and started to attack but i did not scaned it and just defended myself.
I got bounty for 6 days by killing him in location where i have to be all the time.
So i can't do PowerPlay all week long because of this! :/

Whilst I feel for you I don't agree with you.

You can do PowerPlay if you want. You can go to ANY other system. You can even play in the same system if you accept that you're wanted (and modify your behaviour accordingly).

Being Wanted doesn't stop you from docking in a station. It just means that being scanned is bad. Being someone who does a lot of smuggling in big, heavy ships I can assure you that it is more than possible to dock in a station without being scanned and without trying to hide your heat signature.

So whilst I understand your frustration that through your own actions and the game mechanics you're now wanted in the system but I REALLY disagree with you that the entire game and game rules need to change because you're frustrated. Live and learn, chap. Live and learn.

tdshooter · Nov 12, 2015

if you shot first you will get a bounty unless you're in a system thats controlled by you'r faction thats just how the game works

InDigital · Nov 12, 2015

telperion said:
Whilst I feel for you I don't agree with you.

You can do PowerPlay if you want. You can go to ANY other system. You can even play in the same system if you accept that you're wanted (and modify your behaviour accordingly).

Being Wanted doesn't stop you from docking in a station. It just means that being scanned is bad. Being someone who does a lot of smuggling in big, heavy ships I can assure you that it is more than possible to dock in a station without being scanned and without trying to hide your heat signature.

So whilst I understand your frustration that through your own actions and the game mechanics you're now wanted in the system but I REALLY disagree with you that the entire game and game rules need to change because you're frustrated. Live and learn, chap. Live and learn.

OMG. I have to say all...

I am hunting at Heverduduna in my Uber (A graded, mirrored armor having) Clipper.
Then i go back and repair it at HIP (near Kamito). There is also other ship (i named it Taxi).
When i have enough killing/grinding merits in Heverduduna, i park my Clipper in Garage and taking Taxi and going back to Third system where are my Uber Combat ship and then i'm doing bountys in there for double money.
When i have enough doing bounties with my Uber Combat ship i am going back in Taxi to HIP (near Kamito) take out from garage my Uber Clipper and killing (grinding merits) again.

Problem is if i am Wanted i can't park Clipper there anymore and at this momment my Clipper is inside Wanted system/station.
Nobody let's me in on my (Diamondback Explorer) Taxi.

And Silent Running does not work in this game.
I tried it many times. Taxi gets destroyed fast.

And about Taxi. It is fully outfited with A rated stuff.

And...
I just forgot about scanning and about "Report Crimes Against Me" option. I forgot to turn it on.

I think if enemy faction attacks you you don't have to scan it because it is already visible that he is another faction and you can feel when he hits you.

I am asking/begging Frontier to modify game that way.

Any suggestions i can take out that station my clipper?
I am now on Taxi.

bigity · Nov 12, 2015

Just get into the station without being scanned. No worries.

InDigital · Nov 12, 2015

bigity said:
Just get into the station without being scanned. No worries.

Sad is that i tried it before and i already lost merits. Now it is not so important anymore. I can buy Sidewinder and loose it all time while i get in.
But i think Bounty getting thing should be changed anyway.

telperion · Nov 12, 2015

InDigital said:
Sad is that i tried it before and i already lost merits. Now it is not so important anymore. I can buy Sidewinder and loose it all time while i get in.
But i think Bounty getting thing should be changed anyway.

I'm not sure why you're having problems getting into a station without being scanned in an A rated Diamondback Explorer. All you need to do is head away from the station until you're at least 10km away, circle round keeping the station 10km away until you're directly in front of it then face the station and boost towards it, timing your last boost so you can drop speed before hitting the letterbox to give yourself some manoeuvrability. That's WAY over cautious but doing this I've *never* been scanned when entering a station. I do this in my Vulture and Python so you should be able to do it easily in a DB Explorer.

bigity · Nov 12, 2015

telperion said:
I'm not sure why you're having problems getting into a station without being scanned in an A rated Diamondback Explorer. All you need to do is head away from the station until you're at least 10km away, circle round keeping the station 10km away until you're directly in front of it then face the station and boost towards it, timing your last boost so you can drop speed before hitting the letterbox to give yourself some manoeuvrability. That's WAY over cautious but doing this I've *never* been scanned when entering a station. I do this in my Vulture and Python so you should be able to do it easily in a DB Explorer.

Do what he said. It's easy. I don't even boost in, if you are half speed or so you will get into the slot before any scan can complete, even without silent running.

MottiKhan · Nov 12, 2015

khemsa said:
Automatic instinct you say? Do you also kill system defense ships whenever they interdict you?

I do. Interdiction is an act of aggression. Yes, it gets me a week's bounty on my head, but yeah, I do.

Bacalao · Nov 12, 2015

Was the system you were attacked in controlled by an opposing power (enemy) or your own? It's hard to tell from your description exactly where you were attacked. I'm assuming you're undermining in a clipper in Hev. with a home station in HIP and bounty hunting in a third system. You were attacked in your taxi on your way back to HIP from the 3rd system, now your clipper is in there and you "can't" get it. You were interdicted in your power's home system (HIP) and not having report crimes on he didn't get a bounty, but you did. What exactly do you want changed? You attacked and killed an unwanted ship, you were in a diamondback so the kill couldn't have been that quick, so you had ample time to not actually kill him.
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Either way, you shouldn't have trouble getting into and out of the stations undetected, especially not in a diamondback. Forget the flying out 10km stuff, just fly in, you're in a diamondback. You've got to dawdle an awful lot to get scanned on your way into a starport.

bigity · Nov 12, 2015

MottiKhan said:
I do. Interdiction is an act of aggression. Yes, it gets me a week's bounty on my head, but yeah, I do.

Same here.

-Pv- · Nov 13, 2015

If before power play you just shot at anything, now in power play, you'll have to be a little more picky. Just make sure the other guy shoots first and you'll be OK.
-Pv-

InDigital · Nov 13, 2015

I got in sidewinder yesterday and get in that HIP station undetected and got my Clipper out - then moved to Kamito.
Now Kamito is my base of operations.

Yes i would like to kill also System Authority Vessels when they Interdicts me but i don't want these bounties.

I was attacked in (Li-Yong-Rui) system(HIP near Kamito) by enemy (Denton Patreus) i am myself from Zachary Hudson. So...
It means if i got interedicted then 1000000% it (enemy) is going to attack and kill me.
IT happens always and i think Frontier should make game remove bounty (at least faster) on that situation because you carry (maybe) merits!
I don't want to be killed with those merits and thats why i shoot as fast as i can and kill that bast ard.
If i just shoot him once it won't let me go...

It is not like i am a noob - soon i will be Elite but... i just do regullary pif paf bum bam puf bounties and it was just a reflex to kill that bas tard.