Suggestion: Combat Python

Would you like to see a Python combat variant in game?

  • Yes

    Votes: 79 43.9%

  • No

    Votes: 72 40.0%

  • Undecided

    Votes: 29 16.1%
  • Total voters
    180

kafolarbear

K
Hello, everyone. I love my Python, and use it for PvE and PvP combat. Unfortunately, it is woefully outclassed in combat by ships like the FDL and FAS.So, I was thinking, if the Python is a military vessel, might it not have a variant that would be able to atleast be equal to its civilian counterparts? What I am thinking is a Python variant with similar handling to the pre- nerf Python, or maybe slightly worse, with the same armament plus two small or medium hardpoints , with less internal slots, but one or two more utility slots, worse jump range, slightly better armor and shielding, a slightly lower top speed (-10m/s or so) and in the 70-90 million credit price range. What do you guys think? I am no trying to make a super OP death boat here, just a Python that would be viable against ships such as the FDL.

Sorry for not going into detail and the horrible organization, but I am typing this up on a phone so yea...

But I want to hear you opinion! Would you like to see something like this in game? Is what I proposed too OP/UP? Thanks for reading!

-CMDR Kbear

Edit: If you are against this idea, can you please explain why? I am genuinely interested as to why you would be against this idea?
 
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kafolarbear

K
Notwyn said:
Why? Just buy an FDL, FAS or a Vulture if you want a combat ship. Python is a multi-role ship.
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Why? Because the FDL, FAS and Vulture are different play styles than the Python, the Python is like a tank and is meant to be heavy at the cost of speed and manueverbility; plus, I like the utilitarian feel of the Python over the luxury feel of the FDL, the vulture does not have enough weapons to be competitive in PvP, and the FAS... well the federation, alliance all the way! :)

-CMDR Kbear
 
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Infidel Deity

Infidel Deity
The Python is a lovely ship.
When the engineers arrive, I will give mine more speed and jump range.
Don't think I will feel the need for a combat version then.

But the FAS is a very fun ship.
And to use federal ships against the federals and imperial ships against the empire: I like that!

But like the Cobra, the Python has found its way into my heart. :)
 

Drink!

Drink!
kafolarbear said:
if the Python is a military vessel
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Its not. Its a multi roll ship. The Python is being out classed by dedicated combat ships. Which it should. A combat variant would be nice but may not fit in the gap.
We have a gap between the python (56M) and conda (146M), we could use a large combat ship...or any around 100M.
 

kafolarbear

K
Drink! said:
Its not. Its a multi roll ship. The Python is being out classed by dedicated combat ships. Which it should. A combat variant would be nice but may not fit in the gap.
We have a gap between the python (56M) and conda (146M), we could use a large combat ship...or any around 100M.
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Note: Military =\= pure combat, and I am pretty sure the lore states it has been used as a military vessel for the last few centuries. I would imagine that the military would create a combat focused variant of a multi role ship.

-CMDR Kbear
 

Fyrd Judge

Fyrd Judge
Drink! said:
Its not. Its a multi roll ship. The Python is being out classed by dedicated combat ships. Which it should. A combat variant would be nice but may not fit in the gap.
We have a gap between the python (56M) and conda (146M), we could use a large combat ship...or any around 100M.
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The Python is classed as a patrol cruiser — In Game Description. It is a warship, it just happens it can change its role.
 
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Deleted member 110222

D
I voted undecided, as I don't care, personally.

If it happens, meh'.

If it doesn't, meh'.
 

Zeta Legion

Z
Creating a 'combat Python' defeats the purpose of the ship. Its' tanky-ness comes courtesy of the higher proportion of internals compared to other ships in its' weight class, which is a common feature of EVERY multi-role ship. It's good enough at fighting to be effective in PvE. If we're talking PvP, buffing the Python to make it directly competitive with the FDL leads us back to the pre-SCB nerf discussions about why would anyone pick a FDL over a Python, because the Python can do everything the FDL can do just as well but can also fulfill other roles effectively. The PvP meta has a lot of problems, but playing musical chairs with what ships are uber PvP boats isn't going to address those issues and will just lead to more problems.

If you want a better battle-tank of a ship buy an Anaconda. It's literally better at everything but landing at outposts.

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Fyrd Judge said:
Python is classed as a patrol cruiser — In Game Description. It just happens it can change its role.
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"Some smaller navies still use this class as Patrol Cruisers, although tiny compared to the Imperial Interdictors and Federal Battlecruisers" Translation: It's used as a stop-gap measure by petty local governments. It's not a dedicated warship by any means.
 

Fyrd Judge

Fyrd Judge
Zeta Legion said:
"Some smaller navies still use this class as Patrol Cruisers, although tiny compared to the Imperial Interdictors and Federal Battlecruisers" Translation: It's used as a stop-gap measure by petty local governments. It's not a dedicated warship by any means.
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It is considered by some to be the most effective balance between firepower, manouvrebility, and protection currently available. In addition to being capable of holding its own against the larger Anaconda in a toe-to-toe frontal battle through its substantial protection and firepower, the Python is generally agile enough to comfortably deal with smaller fighter classes without having to rely on turret mounts. It's all about knowing how to fit correctly.

http://elite-dangerous.wikia.com/wiki/Python
 
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kafolarbear

K
Quote:[ "Some smaller navies still use this class as Patrol Cruisers, although tiny compared to the Imperial Interdictors and Federal Battlecruisers" Translation: It's used as a stop-gap measure by petty local governments. It's not a dedicated warship by any means.]

It says "still" implying that while being faded out, it was a military ship, and is still used as such remember; this design is centuries old. Also, I am not suggesting that we make the original Python obsolete, just that we have a variant, just like the Asp, Viper, Cobra, Diamond back, so I do not see how this defeats the purpose of the Python, it will still be an armed trader like some people want it to, but it will also have a combat variant for those who like the style of the Python.

-CMDR Kbear
 
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Zeta Legion

Z
kafolarbear said:
Quote:[ "Some smaller navies still use this class as Patrol Cruisers, although tiny compared to the Imperial Interdictors and Federal Battlecruisers" Translation: It's used as a stop-gap measure by petty local governments. It's not a dedicated warship by any means.]

It says "still" implying that while being faded out, it was a military ship, and is still used as such remember; this design is centuries old. Also, I am not suggesting that we make the original Python obsolete, just that we have a variant, just like the Asp, Viper, Cobra, Diamond back, so I do not see how this defeats the purpose of the Python, it will still be an armed trader like some people want it to, but it will also have a combat variant for those who like the style of the Python.

-CMDR Kbear
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I'll say it again, if you want a powerful combat ship in the vein of the Python, the Anaconda is that way ->
 

Catroaster

C
Yep, I'd like to see a ship with the same up-front firepower of a Python and big hittable hull but with slightly higher manoeverability and less internal space. Should fit nicely in the ship spectrum. And can still land at outposts.
 
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kafolarbear

K
Zeta Legion said:
I'll say it again, if you want a powerful combat ship in the vein of the Python, the Anaconda is that way ->
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And yet the Anaconda is still a multi role ship, plus not everyone (including me) has the money to buy it, much less outfit it. Plus, the Anaconda is a bit too big and stupid for my taste, the Python hits that sweet spot. :p
 
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DanaM

DanaM
Fyrd Judge said:
In addition to being capable of holding its own against the larger Anaconda in a toe-to-toe frontal battle through its substantial protection and firepower, the Python......
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Um, no.

Sorry, but a python doing that against a well-fitted anaconda with a competent pilot is gonna die, and fast. And why would you want to? You don't fight bigger ships that way, right? Strange statement.

Edited to add:
Ah, that statement was regarding the pre-nerf python, apparently.
 
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