Suggestion - Should we nerf the FAS?

DragoonKnight

DragoonKnight
I am seeing a lot of discontent here for the fact that the FDL has a class 6 PP. So I am wondering if you guys think that all ships should be forced to choose between weapons, thrusters, and shields or just certain ones.

Lets do a comparison
FDL vs FAS
Cost:A rated FDL costs about 15-25 Million more
Number of weapons hardpoints that need power: FDL -5, FAS - 4
Agility: FAS is the clear winner here
Defenses: FDL relies on big shields and FAS relies on big armor to stay alive
Speed: Tie - About the same for both ships

So if having weapons, shields, and thrusters is bad then should we request a nerf to the FAS then as well?
 

Infidel Deity

Infidel Deity
DragoonKnight said:
I am seeing a lot of discontent here for the fact that the FDL has a class 6 PP. So I am wondering if you guys think that all ships should be forced to choose between weapons, thrusters, and shields or just certain ones.

Lets do a comparison
FDL vs FAS
Cost:A rated FDL costs about 15-25 Million more
Number of weapons hardpoints that need power: FDL -5, FAS - 4
Agility: FAS is the clear winner here
Defenses: FDL relies on big shields and FAS relies on big armor to stay alive
Speed: Tie - About the same for both ships

So if having weapons, shields, and thrusters is bad then should we request a nerf to the FAS then as well?
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Let's agree to disagree. [yesnod]
 

sic

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DragoonKnight said:
Not sure what you want to disagree with. I am merely asking a question, not making a suggestion.

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Because I mentioned nothing else other than price, right?
Would you like to borrow my glasses?
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yes.. use that to read what you type..
 

DragoonKnight

DragoonKnight
Sole Hunter said:
The FAS is currently the most well balanced ship in the game....
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What do you think makes it so balanced?
How do we, as individual players or as a community, determine that it is just right and not too much (or too little) of one thing or another?
Is there a benchmark that we use and then we can say a ship is balanced or too weak or too OP?

P.S. Not trying to be a pain in the ass, just trying to get a conversation going and would like your opinions on this.

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NeilKD said:
Suggestion - Nerf the FAS!

Response - Crossword puzzle clue:

"Go Away!" 2 words, first word begins with F, second word ends with F (4, 3)
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Oh look. Someone has left their computer unattended and their 10 year old child thinks he is clever.
 
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Mechanist

Mechanist
DragoonKnight said:
Nothing wrong with your opinion, but would you mind providing some reasons why you feel this way.
Why do you like one of them, but not the other? I like both ships
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Imho there are way more FDL's flying around than FAS. Evertime I go to CG I usually find various FDL in wing or solo looking for prey.
It would be nice if the manufacturers could release a statistics on Galnet about their sales :)
 

Jack Schitt

Jack Schitt
DragoonKnight said:
I am merely asking a question, not making a suggestion.
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Then to avoid confusion you might want to ask a moderator to change the thread title, or at least stick a question mark after it, unless you're deliberately trying to bait people in which case congratulations on a job well done.

Edit: it's now changed; much less confusing or provocative. FWIW I wouldn't want the FAS changed but my reasons are purely selfish. I simply love my FAS so much I'd be heartbroken if anything changed. But then I don't see the FDL or larger ships as ultimate goals, while others do. And the FAS is ridiculously versatile compared to some of the larger craft.
 
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DragoonKnight

DragoonKnight
Mechanist said:
Imho there are way more FDL's flying around than FAS. Evertime I go to CG I usually find various FDL in wing or solo looking for prey.
It would be nice if the manufacturers could release a statistics on Galnet about their sales :)
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Ok, A Valid point. Especially considering that Caramel Clown also mentions it.
Is that the only reason? What if the Engineer 2.1 changes result in the FDL no longer being the top dog of PvP? Would that be an improvement in your opinion?
 

DragoonKnight

DragoonKnight
MickyG1982 said:
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Not getting into the "my ship is the most expensive so should be best" debate again...
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This is a topic about what makes a ship balanced. If you feel that ship cost should not be a balancing factor then tell us what should.

Also, still looking for someone to say if it is bad or not that a ship can equip the best weapons, shields, and thrusters.
 
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kofeyh

kofeyh
DragoonKnight said:
I am seeing a lot of discontent here for the fact that the FDL has a class 6 PP. So I am wondering if you guys think that all ships should be forced to choose between weapons, thrusters, and shields or just certain ones.

Lets do a comparison
FDL vs FAS
Cost:A rated FDL costs about 15-25 Million more
Number of weapons hardpoints that need power: FDL -5, FAS - 4
Agility: FAS is the clear winner here
Defenses: FDL relies on big shields and FAS relies on big armor to stay alive
Speed: Tie - About the same for both ships

So if having weapons, shields, and thrusters is bad then should we request a nerf to the FAS then as well?
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How about we wait for the next update that amoungst other things, changes thrusters for smaller ships, and for others engineers may be able to tweak?

Also if you think FAS needs a nerf, after FDL gained a sizable buff, I think you need to re-think. Because about the only thing that can go toe-to-toe with a rail FDL, is a FAS. ;)
 
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