Support the League and make BGS history

Jmanis · Jul 22, 2018

I know some of you who read this forum are in control of large groups. So here's a challenge.

The League of Reparation has the short straw in the current CG... in fact they've got no straw. It's a one-sided war CG with no counter-CG supporting the League.

The League of Reparation is a faction introduced to two systems just for this CG; Ienpalang and Xibal. Thing is, they're engaged in a war with the controlling faction in both systems. CG or no, by rights if they get superior influence when the war ends on Thursday, they should gain control of the system and a station asset.

Xibal is a write-off, standing at 68.8% vs 1% at the moment, but Ienpalang is still doable at 33% vs 4%. There's 1,100 contributors to the CG at the moment, but many will be minimum-contribution just to get the decals, and the rest will be farming credits, careless for the influence effects, nor an understanding for the transactional effects/impacts of murderhoboing.

Wouldn't it be awesome if a faction written-off as the punching bag for a CG plot actually rose up and took control of the system? So that's the challenge, take it or leave it.

Ryan Murdoc · Jul 22, 2018

Leaving it. Local BGS planning as well as supporting our (new) neighbours always takes priority.

Shir · Jul 22, 2018

I think the easiest way is to lay low for now, and do it next week when everybody is gone from the system

Limoncello Lizard · Jul 22, 2018

Shir said:
I think the easiest way is to lay low for now, and do it next week when everybody is gone from the system

I think you've missed the point. As Jmanis points out, this group is only there for the duration of the CG. However, if they were to win the war, they would be there to stay.

Ryan Murdoc · Jul 22, 2018

Limoncello Lizard said:
I think you've missed the point. As Jmanis points out, this group is only there for the duration of the CG. However, if they were to win the war, they would be there to stay.

I doubt that'll be the case. I remember someone posting to have successfully retreated a MF out of several Systems over a certain amount of time (weeks or months). Then, for the sake of a CG happening, FD installed the MF in 5 Systems overnight, undoing everything those Players achieved (think it was somewhere around Colonia).

Plus, if the LoR gets squashed as per the storyline that FD has set up there's no reason to have them stay in the System at all. As far as the Lore goes, FD are the ones who call the shots. We can participate but have no say in things in the end. Reason we pursue our own Lore building by what we do through our PMF - much more rewarding.

Ian Doncaster · Jul 22, 2018

Ryan Murdoc said:
I doubt that'll be the case. I remember someone posting to have successfully retreated a MF out of several Systems over a certain amount of time (weeks or months). Then, for the sake of a CG happening, FD installed the MF in 5 Systems overnight, undoing everything those Players achieved (think it was somewhere around Colonia).

Yes - though once the War CG was over (and they'd lost) they were retreated again, so no permanent effect, just a bit of a delay. Might well have been different if they'd won the War CG, of course.

Deareim · Jul 22, 2018

Ryan Murdoc said:
I doubt that'll be the case. I remember someone posting to have successfully retreated a MF out of several Systems over a certain amount of time (weeks or months). Then, for the sake of a CG happening, FD installed the MF in 5 Systems overnight, undoing everything those Players achieved (think it was somewhere around Colonia).

Plus, if the LoR gets squashed as per the storyline that FD has set up there's no reason to have them stay in the System at all. As far as the Lore goes, FD are the ones who call the shots. We can participate but have no say in things in the end. Reason we pursue our own Lore building by what we do through our PMF - much more rewarding.

yes it was « the nameless » faction in colonia.
And yes again, if FD needs it to disapear, it will. And the contrary also.

Jmanis · Jul 22, 2018

Ryan Murdoc said:
Plus, if the LoR gets squashed as per the storyline that FD has set up there's no reason to have them stay in the System at all. As far as the Lore goes, FD are the ones who call the shots. We can participate but have no say in things in the end. Reason we pursue our own Lore building by what we do through our PMF - much more rewarding.

And if they aren't squashed? If LoR turn out with a 20% advantage compared to the spearheading faction? There's entirely logical processes to how the CG may be 'successful' but still fail to oust LoR.

I'm sure Jacques would love to hear all about how FD won't change things when players do something different

Jacques' misjump may have always been planned, UA bombing or no, but we'll never end up within these situations if we don't try.... and planned or not, nobody was ever told to UA bomb Jacques, yet after myself and a couple other players did, we end up with Colonia, and a bunch of close-encounters in his jump logs, including references to the UAs.

Jmanis · Jul 22, 2018

Shir said:
I think the easiest way is to lay low for now, and do it next week when everybody is gone from the system

As LL said... it's almost certain they won't exist in the game after this CG.

Lord_aNOOBis · Jul 22, 2018

Ian Doncaster said:
Yes - though once the War CG was over (and they'd lost) they were retreated again, so no permanent effect, just a bit of a delay. Might well have been different if they'd won the War CG, of course.

The Nameless retreated again since they lost, but mostly because we made a lot of noise in the Forum against this "hand of god" thing expanding a beaten up faction into 5 new systems. (And as a side effect canceling a war as we were about to win a Station...)

To me it seems like the guys at FDev follow their own plans regardless what players do.
Only if the player actions do not interfere with the intended storyline (or help progress it) they might take it up and create some impact.

The thing is: you never know what they are up to. So if it's fun to do stuff, go ahead and try! Just don't expect too much and enjoy the actual gameplay.

Grinding for intended storylines seems quite futile to me.

Ryan Murdoc · Jul 22, 2018

Lord_aNOOBis said:
The Nameless retreated again since they lost, but mostly because we made a lot of noise in the Forum against this "hand of god" thing expanding a beaten up faction into 5 new systems. (And as a side effect canceling a war as we were about to win a Station...)

To me it seems like the guys at FDev follow their own plans regardless what players do.
Only if the player actions do not interfere with the intended storyline (or help progress it) they might take it up and create some impact.

The thing is: you never know what they are up to. So if it's fun to do stuff, go ahead and try! Just don't expect too much and enjoy the actual gameplay.
Grinding for intended storylines seems quite futile to me.

[video=youtube;PO-O8cIlwkA]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PO-O8cIlwkA[/video]

Misaniovent · Jul 23, 2018

yeah it's a bit sad that these are unopposed. Welcome to the railroad.

Jmanis · Jul 23, 2018

Misaniovent said:
yeah it's a bit sad that these are unopposed. Welcome to the railroad.

So Ienpalang is now at 37% vs 1%, so it's a bit of a lost cause there too now. Oh well...

Marcus Machiavelli · Jul 26, 2018

Jmanis said:
As LL said... it's almost certain they won't exist in the game after this CG.

Weird stuff happens with FD. The Namarii Emperors Dawn (the guys who killed the emperor) had a CG against them 2 and a half years ago. http://elite-dangerous.wikia.com/wiki/Emperor's_Dawn
They got smashed and got taken out but stayed in Kamcha, weird as now they are a corporation as well.

Then 6 months ago FD them put back into Namarii, it gave us a heart attack! FD moving against our player faction as we own that system. https://inara.cz/galaxy-minorfaction/39106/
Who knows!?!

Sapyx · Jul 27, 2018

Marcus Machiavelli said:
Weird stuff happens with FD. The Namarii Emperors Dawn (the guys who killed the emperor) had a CG against them 2 and a half years ago. http://elite-dangerous.wikia.com/wiki/Emperor's_Dawn
They got smashed and got taken out but stayed in Kamcha, weird as now they are a corporation as well.

Then 6 months ago FD them put back into Namarii, it gave us a heart attack! FD moving against our player faction as we own that system. https://inara.cz/galaxy-minorfaction/39106/
Who knows!?!

"Namarii Emperor's Dawn" is a procedurally-generated native faction there; not the "Emperor's Dawn" anarchist group that killed the emperor. Two different organizations, with unfortunately similar names.

Marcus Machiavelli · Jul 27, 2018

Sapyx said:
"Namarii Emperor's Dawn" is a procedurally-generated native faction there; not the "Emperor's Dawn" anarchist group that killed the emperor. Two different organizations, with unfortunately similar names.

Hahaha unfortunate like "Hitlers Pie and coffee shop"
or "Stalins child care"
or "The Cannibal Corporation"
Anyway, we had 7 factions there and 6 months ago the "Namarii Emperor's Dawn" got "procedurally-generated" to make 8, and their other system is Kamcha (111 lys away) which is also in the Emperor's Dawn lore in the wiki.

I may be wearing a tinfoil hat but you are not paranoid if they really are out to get you.....

(I actual believe it is just a stuff up by FD that they discovered 6 months ago in Kamcha and they tried to "fix" it)

Ryan Murdoc · Jul 27, 2018

Marcus Machiavelli said:
(I actual believe it is just a stuff up by FD that they discovered 6 months ago in Kamcha and they tried to "fix" it)

Regarding that, we probably never could've achieved our greatest feat as a Wing without FD finally realising that they forgot to put some MF in their respective home Systems. At one point (small update) the factions suddenly appeared back in their homes (noticeable because instead of 7 there were suddenly 8 MF in the Systems).

And I wager there still be plenty of Systems out there who need to be repaired like that.

Sapyx · Jul 29, 2018

Marcus Machiavelli said:
Hahaha unfortunate like "Hitlers Pie and coffee shop"
or "Stalins child care"
or "The Cannibal Corporation"
Anyway, we had 7 factions there and 6 months ago the "Namarii Emperor's Dawn" got "procedurally-generated" to make 8, and their other system is Kamcha (111 lys away) which is also in the Emperor's Dawn lore in the wiki.

I may be wearing a tinfoil hat but you are not paranoid if they really are out to get you.....

(I actual believe it is just a stuff up by FD that they discovered 6 months ago in Kamcha and they tried to "fix" it)

There are no new procedurally-generated factions. Namarii Emperor's Dawn is native to the Namarii system and would have been present there at game launch. Here's a thead from over a year ago denouncing their arrival in the Kamcha system. They were probably expelled from Namarii long ago, back when it was possible to expel a faction from their home system, and have since been restored to their home as FD have decided no faction shall be homeless.

The genuine Emperor's Dawn, the Imperial-aligned anarchists who murdered the previous Emperor, are still in-game, though FD have edited their home system. They are now native to the Tabaldak system.

Marcus Machiavelli · Jul 30, 2018

Sapyx said:
There are no new procedurally-generated factions. Namarii Emperor's Dawn is native to the Namarii system and would have been present there at game launch. Here's a thead from over a year ago denouncing their arrival in the Kamcha system. They were probably expelled from Namarii long ago, back when it was possible to expel a faction from their home system, and have since been restored to their home as FD have decided no faction shall be homeless.

The genuine Emperor's Dawn, the Imperial-aligned anarchists who murdered the previous Emperor, are still in-game, though FD have edited their home system. They are now native to the Tabaldak system.

Thanks dude!
( I wish Starfire really did try to contact us as that would have been cool roleplay)