Sys Authority constantly attacking when you fight pirates ?!

Homerzilla

Homerzilla
So, I am in my home sys ( Ratraii, Colonia) - mining, in a High RES- NO bounty NO fine on my head. Allied with ALL main factions here and in MOST systems, in a radius of 20-30 ly.

I get attacked by a wing of Pirates - obvious I fight back, sys auth vessels show up, 6 of them, 4 will attack the Pirates ( are green) but 2 of them turn red AND start attacking ME, ignoring the pirates.

I kill the Pirate wing, try to get back to my mining, but the fraking 2 buggers stay red, and keep shooting me. Other ships of Sys Auth stay green ( 4 of them) ; If I try to defend shooting back - I get a fine - if I kill one of them - I get a bounty and a Notoriety point. I avoid both of these and just jump away, in order to return few seconds later. Since I saw many times sys auth vessels FIGHTING EACH OTHER I wonder is something here is not, indeed, broken on AI behavior.

I check my transaction panel - no fines, no bounty. This happened CONSTANTLY in some systems. 1 third of sys authority side with the Pirates ( shooting at me and helping Pirate).

I cannot find a logical reason for this behavior. Can some, please, explain me ? Is a feature or a bug ?

Thank you in advance, guys..
 

Dillon Fallon

Dillon Fallon
I'm sure this has been about for years and is the main reason I started flying with report crimes off. Definitely a bug as I remember the last time this happened there was no reckless weapon discharge, no assault bounty and I was clean and allied with the controlling faction. Pretty sure they even entered the instance as hostile as well. That some aren't hostile suggests this must be a bug though since any time sys sec or ATR have been genuinely after me, they've always all been red.
 

Homerzilla

Homerzilla
Dillon Fallon said:
I'm sure this has been about for years and is the main reason I started flying with report crimes off. Definitely a bug as I remember the last time this happened there was no reckless weapon discharge, no assault bounty and I was clean and allied with the controlling faction. Pretty sure they even entered the instance as hostile as well. That some aren't hostile suggests this must be a bug though since any time sys sec or ATR have been genuinely after me, they've always all been red.
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I started to wonder the instance I saw the idiot AI sys ships fighting each other ( uploaded a vid about, more than a year ago....) - and ignoring the pirates killing miners near them....
Looks like an AI codding failure, who the Edevs never bother to fix.... but hey, we get the mighty Odyssey in exchange.
 

Chrystoph

Chrystoph
Just a SWAG here, but is it possible you have multiple factions of Pie Rats and one Faction got shot before it attacked?
 

Riverside

Riverside
Another old bug that has either returned or is still there based on your description OP.

I fly with report crimes off and when RES hunting usually only visit Haz RES so it's not something I get much opportunity to check, but last night I docked on a carrier to rearm in hostile space and while most of the red rozzers called me names & threw things at me as I docked I also noticed one (still red) just scanned me & told me I was free to go about my business while the rest attacked ;)
 

Homerzilla

Homerzilla
The bug is still present, alive and fat 🤬... I prefer ofc the Haz RES myself, but in this case I have no option - only High RES no HAZ in the target system.
 

Scoob

Scoob
This is indeed quite a prominent old bug that appears to have resurfaced. It's been squashed once before - though not after causing lots of grief, false notoriety levels and generally ruining gameplay - so hopefully it can be squashed again. Not seen it myself lately, but then I've barely played a couple of hours since Odyssey. I'll wait until things work acceptably.

Scoob.
 

Riverside

Riverside
Homerzilla said:
The bug is still present, alive and fat 🤬... I prefer ofc the Haz RES myself, but in this case I have no option - only High RES no HAZ in the target system.
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Sorry I didn't mean to imply that using a high-RES makes you a lesser player :( Only that I have not directly experienced what you describe recently because I don't tend to spend time in instances with cops on patrol :)
 

Homerzilla

Homerzilla
Chrystoph said:
Just a SWAG here, but is it possible you have multiple factions of Pie Rats and one Faction got shot before it attacked?
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Nop, I just get assaulted by 3 Pirates, 6 Auth. sys ships come, 4 engage the pirates, they are green. Two attack me (!!) , they become red. After Pirates are dead, I turn to other 2 red targets - only to see they are Sys Auth and they keep shooting at me.
I do not shoot back. No fine no bounty on me. They keep shooting. Other 4 police ships stay green watching. I just run away & jump away. In order to avoid bounty and notoriety.
 

Rat Race Choir

Rat Race Choir
It happens every so often.
I'd always assumed the System Authority ships fighting each other was the 'live fire training scenario' they refer to in the voice chatter and was deliberate (maybe to confuse players into inadvertently opening fire on the cops because I think everything in the game is out to get me...)
 

Homerzilla

Homerzilla
Colonia is bugged, when I was in the bubble this was very rare, but in Colonia - there the Edevs do not give a.... to solve the bugs, the de-throtle will not work so after each jump you must pay attention not to crash in the star, the sys auth AI vessels fight each other or attack you and ignore the pirates, and even now, 18h AFTER power play switch, most stations are dead, with ZERO missions... Lazy Edevs....

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Screemonster

Screemonster
It's a really annoying bug that everyone knows about and there are multiple reports on the tracker, expired, put up on the tracker again, duplicated, and still not fixed.
 

Homerzilla

Homerzilla
Screemonster said:
It's a really annoying bug that everyone knows about and there are multiple reports on the tracker, expired, put up on the tracker again, duplicated, and still not fixed.
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The Edevs ignore all the old bugs, and seems to me all the work is done ONLY on Odyssey... sad, since the EDH is still the best part of this game...
 

Bruce G

B
Sorry to hear this seems to be a longstanding issue that hasn't been resolved. If you can find/make an issue on the tracker for it, I'll ensure it gets due attention. If making a new one, please make sure to include as much information as you can about the what you were doing when the issue occurred to help our team reproduce it.
 

Homerzilla

Homerzilla
Bruce G said:
Sorry to hear this seems to be a longstanding issue that hasn't been resolved. If you can find/make an issue on the tracker for it, I'll ensure it gets due attention. If making a new one, please make sure to include as much information as you can about the what you were doing when the issue occurred to help our team reproduce it.
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Just submitted another bug report.... I remember doing the same more than a year ago. But THANK YOU for taking the time to read this and to rise our moral (y).
 

Screemonster

Screemonster
Thinking about it, I've had similar sudden-aggro incidents happen in laggy instances - one time I was coming in to Ray Gateway while a bunch of other people were docked, hit a lagspike and suddenly the station turned red. Wasn't wanted or hostile, but the game journal said the reason for it attacking was simply "hostile". Ended up flinging a ticket at support to get my rebuy back over that one.
 
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