Takin Name

[FlameWizard492]

Please change the name of the takin to “Sichuan Takin.” It’s clearly what you all were going for.

Please don’t interpret my tone as mean/aggressive/yelling/overly demanding. I’m just making a request.

 

[macronecu]

i fully agree
generic animal names in the game are only good when they are interchangeable
for instance formosan bb should have been asiatic bb
or lion is too stylised so it could just be called lion
or african buffalo is clearly not forest buffalo so should be called cape buffalo
but takin is clearly sichuan and should be called that
and even better, its map corrected to reflect this
this could even help with tropical biome being removed like requested by some players
so it can have more realistic temperature requirements

 

[Eletan888]

Have to agree! Definitely distinct enough for subspecies classification

 

[markun]

I also agree. Given the very obvious physical differences it seems odd that they made this choice with the name.

 

[Andrew Norman]

I agree. On the subject of the animals' names in-game, something that has always kind of bothered me personally as a big cat lover -- as strange as this might sound -- is that the Siberian tiger is referred to in-game as the Siberian tiger. Stay with me here...

If I'm not mistaken, they apparently actually went extinct in Siberia some years ago. I'm in the UK, and every zoo I've been to in recent years that houses them calls them Amur tigers, because they apparently only exist in the Amur Valley nowadays. It doesn't ruin the game for me by any means, but I've always thought it kind of odd that the in-game animal has never had its name updated to reflect this.

 

[ScotiaMugdock]

I actually disagree with this. I would rather all subspecies level animals were moved to the species level. This makes the animals for flexible for use ingame

 

[macronecu]

I actually disagree with this. I would rather all subspecies level animals were moved to the species level. This makes the animals for flexible for use ingame

like i detailed it in my first reply, i also want this for many subspecies level animals in the game
but it is only feasible when the models can actually pass for generic species
things like cape buffalo and sichuan takin that are clearly not forest buffalo or other takins are useless as generic
it would be no different than naming both wolves wolf, while one looks like arctic, the other "timber"
or the two tigers or brown bears

 

[ScotiaMugdock]

like i detailed it in my first reply, i also want this for many subspecies level animals in the game
but it is only feasible when the models can actually pass for generic species
things like cape buffalo and sichuan takin that are clearly not forest buffalo or other takins are useless as generic
it would be no different than naming both wolves wolf, while one looks like arctic, the other "timber"
or the two tigers or brown bears

I fully understand this, I still disagree…

 

[macronecu]

I fully understand this, I still disagree…

i see, so you also find multiple tigers, brown bears and wolves (and dingo) unnecessary?
even elk (wapiti) if it gets added? im not sure but i think they were the same species as red deer

 

[markun]

The takin we have in Planet Zoo could not be anything other than a Sichuan takin.

It bears no resemblance to any other takin so suggesting that by naming it just takin makes it somehow more versatile is baffling to me.

 

[ScotiaMugdock]

i see, so you also find multiple tigers, brown bears and wolves (and dingo) unnecessary?
even elk (wapiti) if it gets added? im not sure but i think they were the same species as red deer

Yes. Often the only obvious differences are colour (as demonstrated by the takin) whereas the rest of the differences are small (and in every example, I can guarantee no-one would be able to tell the difference). This is easily fixed by a couple of colour morphs which I agree that the takin should have. Otherwise, every animal should be represented at the subspecies level should be represented and let’s be realistic; who really care what subspecies we have in-game of:

• Black rhinoceros
• Cougar
• Dama gazelle
• Dhole
• Giant panda
• Little penguin
• Moose (Elk)
• Saiga
• Wild boar
• Wisent
• Wolverine

We only have 1 subspecies of tiger in-game. The “subspecies” we have are merely separate populations.

Wapiti are considered a separate species from the red deer although historically have been considered conspecific. I would prefer the white-tailed deer for this reason.

 

[Roxxsmom]

I actually disagree with this. I would rather all subspecies level animals were moved to the species level. This makes the animals for flexible for use ingame

I would agree, except when the appearance of the animal is clearly that of a specific subspecies. When it's not clearly a specific subspecies, and they give the worldwide range anyway (is with the so-called timber wolf in game) it seems it would have been better to go with the general species name for both scientific and common.

The in-game takin really does look like the Sichuan variety. Of course, some subspecies look more distinctive than others. Aside from being a large, orange, stripey cat, the Sumatran tiger doesn't look much like an Amur tiger, for instance, but the differences between some subspecies are more subtle (appearance wise).

There does seem to be some inconsistency in which common name the game give animals versus the range designated, sometimes for just a certain subspecies and sometimes for the entire species when the name of a certain subspecies is given. Wonder if it's because they have people from different countries working on the game, and common names for some animals can vary between countries? Like in the US, timber wolf is a specific subspecies (Canis lupus lycaon) of gray wolf (Canis lupus).

Zoos in the US seem to just be starting to use Amur tiger instead of Siberian Tiger (for example, the San Diego Zoo), so maybe it's still in flux?

 

[macronecu]

I would agree, except when the appearance of the animal is clearly that of a specific subspecies. When it's not clearly a specific subspecies, and they give the worldwide range anyway (is with the so-called timber wolf in game) it seems it would have been better to go with the general species name for both scientific and common.

The in-game takin really does look like the Sichuan variety. Of course, some subspecies look more distinctive than others. Aside from being a large, orange, stripey cat, the Sumatran tiger doesn't look much like an Amur tiger, for instance, but the differences between some subspecies are more subtle (appearance wise).

There does seem to be some inconsistency in which common name the game give animals versus the range designated, sometimes for just a certain subspecies and sometimes for the entire species when the name of a certain subspecies is given. Wonder if it's because they have people from different countries working on the game, and common names for some animals can vary between countries? Like in the US, timber wolf is a specific subspecies (Canis lupus lycaon) of gray wolf (Canis lupus).

Zoos in the US seem to just be starting to use Amur tiger instead of Siberian Tiger (for example, the San Diego Zoo), so maybe it's still in flux?

yea im on the same page with this and i think markun agrees too
i would like to see our very stylistic lion called just lion for instance
it has range of the whole species in zoopedia anyway
im not so sure about the black bear tho, it only has taiwan range
i cant seem to tell differences between its subspecies easy so maybe
but cape buffalo being called african bugs me, with just cape's range in map
also it is clearly not the small red forest buffalo
like you said there is a lot of inconsistency
maybe they cant decide on a style

 

[FoxyDee]

I agree that the Takin should be renamed to Sichuan Takin specifically. The four subspecies look nothing alike, so it would only make sense.

There is really some inconsistency going on. Some animals are very specifically called by their subspecies name for example the Formosan Black Bear, where the generic Asiatic Black Bear would be better since the subspecies are very similar and than you have the takin...and Dama Gazelle too..It is specifically the Addra Gazelle subspecies and should be called so, because the Mhorr subspecies has a completely different coloration.

 

[Annie_konik]

Please change the name of the takin to “Sichuan Takin.” It’s clearly what you all were going for.

Please don’t interpret my tone as mean/aggressive/yelling/overly demanding. I’m just making a request.

It would make perfect sense! The model looks like Sichuan Takin and nothing else!