RCT 3 PC Thanks David, Michael and Frontier.

[sebar]

Just a simple thank you for supporting the RCT3 community or what is left of it. You aren't getting paid for this as it comes out of your own pocket and while Atari appears to possibly have abandoned the RCT3 community, you guys have put on a brave front and continued a fashion of support for needy users. So I honestly just wanted to say on behalf of myself and many others a thank you for your continued support of the community.

"Mark Paul" Sebar
American Author and Poet

 

[Wagi]

Of course Frontier got paid for this...when I purchased my copy of the game and both expansion packs, which came out of MY pocket.

I really don't know what you are going on about with Atari...they also provide a forums and just as much tech support as here. I'm confused as to your statements about a 'brave front' (jeez...they designed a video game, they're not sheltering the homeless), and I see as much "support for needy users" as can be provided when we are told there aren't any outstanding 'issues' left to be addressed.

Face it, both companies have handled customer service extremely poorly, and I don't see a huge amount of community support here worth singing anyone's praises over....

 

[sebar]

Wagi, we have been here at the very start, and now comes the big "SURPRISE! I put most of the blame on Atari's shoulders. Atari pays the dev to fix certain issues and this has not happened. The Dev fulfilled their contract as Atari paid them. In addition the publisher has the burden or opportunity to support their customers, not the dev directly, so I am sorry to tell you I disagree completely on this issue.

Now, can Frontier fix issues like spinning carousels, ski lifts and a skywheel that rotates way too slow? I don't know. I suppose they can address and nail issues, but they than must pay for that from what profits they initially received, and than the publisher benefits.

Nope, this issue I throw at the Publisher, not the developer. So I think the attack is better aimed at the Atari President who continues to take the RCT3 community for granted, that is until it is replaced by something bigger and better and guaranteed that is coming and sooner than many realize or care too.

The future will be completely owned by the TPG community that's a guarantee as well, however believe it or not, there will be room for some wily pro developers if they are smart enough to embrace the billions who will play a free game around the globe and continue to grow it. So I throw the lack of support mainly on the Publishers shoulders and I stick by my post. My stance will not shift on this issue.

BRUNO....FIX RCT3 for your customers NOW!

 

[Wagi]

Oh, I also blame Atari too, and I do understand where you are coming from sebar. I know we don't always agree on some things...others we are very much in agreement. This is just one where I don't think publisher OR the developer pointing fingers at each other and saying "It's THEIR fault!" does anyone any good.

I agree that the publisher hasn't seen fit to pay for the needed fixes, but the fact remains that it was the developer who's work caused a good number of the issues, and it reflects just as much -if not MORE - on their reputation than on Atari's. A company's reputation is worth protecting above all. Perhaps Frontier fulfilled their contract with Atari, but they didn't fill their contract with me and many like me.

The last we heard we were told by Frontier that they were 'unaware' of any outstanding issues. This is laughable. There's issues that were pointed out in the Beta that still haven't been addressed, so statements that they are 'unaware' do nothing but insult many of us. They don't seen to understand - nor care - that a large number of us feel we were screwed over by BOTH companies. I don't disagree with your assesment that Atari's President continues to take the community for granted at all...I just stand by the opionion that he most certainly isn't the only one that's done that here.

Yes, we'll just continue to disagree on this issue, I stick by my opinion as well, but I respect our right to have differing opinions, it's not something personal at all. But I do agree with you 100% that it is the COMMUNITY that will win in the end by creating something that answers to the community, and not the bottom line.

 

[Cafeen]

Frontier has shown more support than atari in one key way. The Frontier people still communicate with the community. This board is a shining example of it. Think of the atari boards and try and remember the last, real atari person post.

I haven't seen a single one in the few months I've been back...and most of the ones before I left were Michael here. It's pretty bad when the company doesn't even address any of the tech support stuff which they have a forum for, instead they rely on the users to provide the support for them, for free. (Ok, 9 times out of 10 we're decent at diagnosing and helping someone fix and issue, but it still shows a poor front for atari.)

Perhaps it's my background in development that I tend to empathize with the developer side of things (and we too have been screwed over by a publisher) /shrug. At least they are still communicating, and some progress was recently made with them requesting information on bugs related to new technologies (Dual Core and Vista issues). Not too much they can do without publisher support though.

 

[sebar]

The future is certain though.

Yes, we'll just continue to disagree on this issue, I stick by my opinion as well, but I respect our right to have differing opinions, it's not something personal at all. But I do agree with you 100% that it is the COMMUNITY that will win in the end by creating something that answers to the community, and not the bottom line.

Its happening slowly, but it is happening...guaranteed