General / Off-Topic Thanks for ruin the game for me haters.

[Horsti12]

Hello everybody!
Thans for ruin the game for me haters.
Always when I think about the game, than I not think about how good the game is. (which I should, because otherwise you not want to play it), but I always think about the PC communit and how bad it is. (not here, but on YouTube, Twitch, ....)
So when I tell somebody that I like both games (this and the "other coaster game") than people start hating me and calling bad names to me. In what world do I live that I can't even say my opinion? And people also not make a correct comparision on both games. I will give a example. The other coaster game is ***********, because it cost 45$ and it isn't done yet. But it is okay that PC costs much more and is also not done? yes because it is frontier. Same also about the content. People complaing about the content, but PC also only have a few of things which the other coaster game had. I not want to start a hate here and say that the other coaster game is better. I just want to say that there are different people which have different opinions and that the haters should stop hating the other coaster game or calling somebody bad names just because he or she has a different opinion.
In the time were you hate something or somebody else you could build a BEAUTIFUL park in PC or beating the first Scenario Forest Frontiers from RCT1. And when you say something is bad than you have to say it construtive with a argument.
What would be when every person who not own PC would hate PC? And what would be when people not reporting bugs/improvement ideas and instead only say that the game is ********* instead of giving improvement ideas. Than PC would have a lot of things which aren't good and bugs. But when people reporting bugs and improvement ideas to frontier than they can make the game better.

And before somebody else call me a fanboy from the other coaster game than my answer is NO! I own both games deluxe edition since the first time they released the first version of the game and I also enjoyed both games. And I also want that both games get a big success and will exist many years like RCT2 and RCT3. I also own OpenRCT2, Parkitect and the other old RCT Games.

And now I'm playing PC and I hope I will forget the haters and enjoy the game again like two weeks ago.
Have a nice, FRIENDLY day.

 

[DisneylandFreak]

Are you really saying that rctw is better than pc?Or are you meaning the old rct3,2,1 games?If you are really saying that rctw is better than pc,please explain what seems better for you because i see only bad things in rctw and i have bought it and played it.If you are meaning rct3,2,1 than i must agree that they are better rigth now in somes aspects,but that's because this is an alpha and i see a lot of potential in this game!!#i'm nintendogames,#chiefbelief

 

[Sawyer1]

Both games deserve the criticism they are getting. Good and bad. I have no issues with people like RollerCoaster Tycoon World.

 

[Periocus]

I don't understand either. There were always reasons given here why everyone is so frustrated about the other game.
I am happy for everyone who likes to play it, but when i express my opion it is not automatically hate.

 

[simcoaster_87]

Both games deserve the criticism they are getting. Good and bad. I have no issues with people like RollerCoaster Tycoon World.

It's real Life.... [cool] Just ignore it move on... Just like Sawyer said.

 

[thelude007]

I think the reason why so many people are hating on RCTW is because we expected a true sequel to the game we love, but all we got so far is a crappy/buggy/ugly game. Lots of people expectation to the new game when they were teasing us is what PC actually showed. When seeing your favorite coaster sim franchise getting drag through the mud by Atari will make anyone salty. Look at Call of Duty. So many hate for the new one and all the praise for the remastered COD4.

 

[GazNorris]

Horsti12 - I am sorry you feel this way, and if someone has upset you then I hope they understand your post. I have always found, though I don't post much, that this community has been one of the friendliest and easy-going forums I have ever been a member of. You are not alone in owning both games and I hope you find you can continue the enjoyment you get from playing them.

 

[breezerHOG1]

RCT1 + 2 = Chris Sawyer (99/2002)

Rct3 = Frontier w/ Chris Sawyer (2004)

RctW = Atari w/ multiple dev teams and Chris Sawyer just signing his name to it (2016)

PC = Frontier w/ love for the community (2016)

Loyalty to a brand = mindless but Frontier has clearly proven themselves

The way I see it, Rct died a long time ago. Anybody who bought into RctW clearly doesn't know how the gaming industry works, and should learn how to do a little research. RctW is a cash grab and anybody who was sucker enough to buy it is exactly the reason to blame for why such crappy games are released... lol and sigh

 

[inspectorgadget1]

Another RCTW v PC thread [ugh]

 

[Periocus]

Yes.

But it is important i guess, because he seems really sad about it and it is good he is expressing that.
Maybe it is just a misunderstanding.

 

[RandyChimp]

Don't want to pile on here, and if I'm perfectly honest, I'm not 100% sure I understand the original post, but RE criticism of both games, complaints of price are nothing to do with the actual games, they're complaints regarding the system of game development we have now. I have no problem giving Frontier my money for the Alpha, since they gave me years of joy with RCT3 and I have faith in them. My faith was rewarded, as even in it's early stages, PC is fantastic. I get why some people don't like this system though.

Now, regarding criticism of the games themselves, I have no problem if someone wants to play the other game, but don't then tell me it's not a broken mess and that I'm just a PC fanboy for talking about it's flaws. I'm an adult who has been following development of both games from basically the very start (I was even on the old Atari forum thread offering up ideas for RCT4 way back in the day), and as an adult, I can fully recognize when a company is trying to cash in on a beloved title. Maybe Atari actually cares, but I'm not seeing any evidence that they do.

Frontier set the bar from day one when they started doing PC by offering an Alpha version of the game for a little extra money. That was their goal and they're sticking with it, with significant updates and changes based on feedback from fans. I admire that. Atari saw them do this, panicked, and threw up an "early access" version of their game in the hopes that they could claim to be doing it for feedback. They did it for money because they knew the name Rollercoaster Tycoon still had a following and they might as well bleed the fanbase dry before that fanbase realises what's happening.

 

[Horsti12]

Are you really saying that rctw is better than pc?Or are you meaning the old rct3,2,1 games?If you are really saying that rctw is better than pc,please explain what seems better for you because i see only bad things in rctw and i have bought it and played it.If you are meaning rct3,2,1 than i must agree that they are better rigth now in somes aspects,but that's because this is an alpha and i see a lot of potential in this game!!#i'm nintendogames,#chiefbelief

I like both games RCTW and PC. Both games have good and both games have bad things. I just not like it when people calling me a ******** just because I say that I not think that RCTW is *****

And the price thing was just a example that people hate it on RCTW, but accept it on PC which is pretty unfair. For me it was only a litlte complain but now I not even care about it, because I already bought the deluxe editon of PC and be happy that I could play the game already

 

[Croongetuige1]

Pretty brave from you to open this topic and express your feelings about it! But honestly I think it belongs to the Off Topic section...

No hard feelings! *Har*[pirate]

 

[Sawyer1]

the price thing was just a example that people hate it on RCTW, but accept it on PC which is pretty unfair.

People don't mind paying for quality.

 

[Horsti12]

I don't understand either. There were always reasons given here why everyone is so frustrated about the other game.
I am happy for everyone who likes to play it, but when i express my opion it is not automatically hate.

Look at this picture. This is hate and not a opinion anymore.
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[Dalenotchip]

Look at this picture. This is hate and not a opinion anymore.
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That's not here.

In the big scary world of the internet, that keyboard brings out a lot of hate from people over everything. Post somewhere that you like soft cookies and someone will cuss you out because crispy cookies are clearly better.

Play the games you like, keep up with the news, and ignore the knuckle draggers out there.

 

[PopeQ]

What the <Ahem> is the subject of this topic?
I don't understand anything about hating and haters, I always felt the PC community is a very constructive community? The viewers I get on twitch are just [up] so I have no idea what you are talking about.

 

[Curlyriff]

I didn't understand some of what you put due to the grammatical style you have written in. However I would like to apologise for people hating on you. However I would also like to say that I feel that "The Other Game" has it's criticism because of big reasons that are obvious.

The it costs $45 and not finished isn't the argument, it is that it cost $45 and is a broken mess that can not be played without major game breaking messes. Yes this game in Alpha costs more but it works unlike "The Other Game" and that is what is getting people riled up.

The second point about content is that "The Other Game" was meant to be in final stages with minor polishing but because its such a Cr*p fest that it shouldn't be missing key content now. On the other hand one is at the beginning of development for public consumption (pre-alpha being the core mechanics/coding that I am sure Frontier have done internally prior to this stage) which means that although content is currently not in game it has either been shown via videos or is known to be being worked on.

Hating "The Other Game" is going to happen because frankly in my opinion and tens of thousands of others out there it deserves all the Sh*t it gets. Directing attacks at people for having an opinion though is not fair. Just because I disagree with your view point and the principle issues does not mean I would state anything to you direct and I am sure almost all here feel the same way.

Your last point about giving criticism about "The Other Game" by way did happen for a long time but after being ignored, shunned or even blocked for trying to be constructive with criticism people have given up and so have taken to the anger. Anger is also a valid feeling and emotion that some people seem to take offence too but without it we would not progress as it does lead to progression and can sometimes be needed.

I hope what I have said above is found in good faith and you can understand my viewpoint that I know is shared by many others.

Regards,

Adam

 

[RandyChimp]

That's not here.

In the big scary world of the internet, that keyboard brings out a lot of hate from people over everything. Post somewhere that you like soft cookies and someone will cuss you out because crispy cookies are clearly better.

Play the games you like, keep up with the news, and ignore the knuckle draggers out there.

Damn good point, none of that is from here and I don't think anyone here would resort to name calling when discussing these games, so why post the topic here? Surely the OP should take it up with the people giving him/her grief, rather than ranting about it to completely different people.

 

[JMR]

... Anybody who bought into RctW clearly doesn't know how the gaming industry works, and should learn how to do a little research ...

I think this is the kind of statement Horsti is referring to.

There's a very far line between stating your personal preference compared to making statements against other members of the community solely because they enjoy RCTW. Completely uncalled for.

I personally bought into RCTW's paid alpha because I want to support the game's development and am an enthusiast. I know that you should never buy into a paid-alpha game unless you are specifically an enthusiast or want to support the game's developement. For the same reasons, I also bought into Planet Coaster's Paid Alpha.

This sort of thread belongs in the Off-topic section.