Thargoid message?

Prince Tharik Otoli

Prince Tharik Otoli
Is anyone else working on this?
I converted the three digit “blips” from base3 to decimal and then to the corresponding letters. 1=A, 2=B and so forth... and got this:

210 022 110 120 021 101 122 121 011 220 020 111 022 001 021 112 012 200 200 002 010 012 110 202 001 022 112 210 211 111 212 002 202 201

21 8 12 15 7 10 17 16 4 24 6 13 8 1 7 14 5 18 18 2 3 5 12 20 1 8 14 21 22 13 23 2 20 19

U H L O G J Q P D X F M H A G N E R R B C E L T A H N U V M W B T S

Probably another substitution cypher. The spectrogram shows what looks like a 7 planet system.

https://canonn.science/news/thargoid-message/
 

IndigoWyrd

IndigoWyrd
My Thargoid is pretty rusty, let me consult a Master Linguist...

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Prince Tharik Otoli

Prince Tharik Otoli
Yah ok. I guess we all deserve that :). Seriously though, I’d love to see a solution and wondering where Cannon is consolidating their work on this because it’s not like they left an email address.
 
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[Diplomacy] Carnegie

[Diplomacy] Carnegie
Firstly the 27 available characters do not allow for numbers - so this isn't going to be a procgen system name.

Secondly, is there anything in the signal that could be considered a space? A point where none of the 'blips' are showing?
You've got 34 characters in that string without any spaces, and there certainly aren't any system names that are that long.
 

Feros-da-Grundig

Feros-da-Grundig
The preamble as spectrogram in case anyone cares. I agree with OP looks like 7 planet system. Orbits 7 and 5 (and maybe 6?) have disturbances, perhaps indicative those planets themselves have orbiting moons and the others don't. But that could just be noise or I chose the wrong spectrogram parameters (2048 sample hanning window, low pass 8khz)

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Feros-da-Grundig

Feros-da-Grundig
DrewCarnegie said:
Firstly the 27 available characters do not allow for numbers - so this isn't going to be a procgen system name.

Secondly, is there anything in the signal that could be considered a space? A point where none of the 'blips' are showing?
You've got 34 characters in that string without any spaces, and there certainly aren't any system names that are that long.
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There did not seem to be any blank spaces temporally. I'll include the full spectrogram, which shows the timing seems quite regular without pauses.

27 symbols allows for one symbol to be something like a space or a dash.

The symbol frequencies don't tell me much. In fact they seem unusually uniform. Most appear once or twice, "H" appears 3 times, 10 symbols appear twice, 11 appear once, 5 symbols never appear at all. "R" appears twice in a row. I'll include that histogram too:

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TheMegaTurnip

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zeroangel76 said:
Yah ok. I guess we all deserve that :). Seriously though, I’d love to see a solution and wondering where Cannon is consolidating their work on this because it’s not like they left an email address.
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After the Gnosis debacle?

Ha. They'll all be in hiding, still cringing from embaressment.
 
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Henoch

Henoch
Sorry Cmdrs, it is too early in the morning so I don't quite understand. Who received what kind of message from where? Please help to enlighten me.

The Canonn website is not clear about this and they are referring to the departure of Ed Lewis? And the audio they present there does not work for me.
 

Feros-da-Grundig

Feros-da-Grundig
Henoch said:
Sorry Cmdrs, it is too early in the morning so I don't quite understand. Who received what kind of message from where? Please help to enlighten me.

The Canonn website is not clear about this and they are referring to the departure of Ed Lewis? And the audio they present there does not work for me.
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I agree, the Canonn page is incredibly vague. I don't think any of us know more about the background than you. Just that the audio came from thargoids according to a single post on Cannon page. They really should have said how/where/when/by whom it was received. They have presented a puzzle without any plot, so I try to attack the puzzle.

The audio is pretty meaningless to the ear, swept sine waves and bleeps and bloops and clicks, but when transformed into a spectrogram representation has meaning (see my spoiler tagged images).

The first 10 seconds or so of the spectrogram show a 7 planet unary starsystem as OP mentions.

The rest of the message are clicky noises that can be interpreted as a series of triplets of base 3 numbers (also visible in the spectrogram). A base 3 triplet can represent up to 27 different numbers (0-27), so each triplet could represent one of 26 [english] letters, and one special character such as space or dash.

[If "Base 3 triplet" is confusing, consider a base 10 triplet which contains 000-999. Or just take my word for it]

OP has taken the trouble to write down all the triplets as numbers, and also what they would spell if each number represented the letter of the alphabet in that postion (e.g. A=1, B=2....)

But it's gibberish in that form so we assume there is some type of encryption, likely a simple type called a cipher (letters are switched with others according to a pattern or lookup table, common example is the "caesar cipher").

Frequency of letters, and recognizing "special" letters (spaces, or common vowels like 'e') are often helpful in breaking ciphers. But I see no clues along these lines.

We're on opposite sides of the pond though, and it's late for me not early, so I'll end now. Good night/morning commander.

[Sorry if any of that was obvious and seemed too wordy. Just trying to be thorough]
 
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metatheurgist

metatheurgist
Cannon need to reveal the provenance of this message. There are already some that claim FD feeds them tips (not me) and this obfuscation is not helping that perception. If this is just a thing they did to farewell ED that's cool but they need to be upfront about it. The thargoids have never directed a message at the player base before so this seem highly suspicious to me.
 

Jmanis

Jmanis
Yup. The sounds are nothing like anything thargoid related in the game yet... unfortunately not at home to grab a link and find test myself.

Someone needs to verify the origin of this. Til then skeptical hippo is skeptical
 

Varjen

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I wonder, did the OP assume that the encoding of the Base3 was bottom up or top to bottom? 012 or 210?
I did the same thing and came up with the same string, tried ceasar back to front, no sauce.

Maybe we just got the reverse order of it?
 
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