Fiction Thargoids in Elite Dangerous timeline

I have read on the timeline of the original Elite games and I know that Elite Dangerous' timeline is based on their. However, how far is the current lore based is on the older one? Have the Thargoid really invaded already in the current timeline?
 
I think that they are now on the way in. I believe the Unknown Artefact that was recovered was a tracking beacon/spying device, so that when it was picked up and taken to a research location it will have started learning about our technology, and when they are ready the Thargons will attack.
 
Yes, the ED timeline is a continuation of previous ones.

Have a look here for an extremely detailed timeline. This is fan made, but with strict adherence to the lore with many different sources of information.

http://wiki.alioth.net/index.php/Chronicles_of_the_Milky_Way

I would still take that with a grain of salt

  • 3293 The Emperor Hengist of the Achenar Empire steps down from the throne due to ill health, his son, Harold takes his place. [20.1]
  • 3294 James Winston steps down as Fleet Admiral, and becomes the commander of the Turner Space Combat Academy. [7.5]
  • 3294 'The Cause' is started by a group of anarchists dedicated to "bringing the concept of justice to populated space" through direct action against megacorporations and governments. [7.5]
  • 3296 The ITS Duval Dynasty is blown up by VLA terrorists. [20.2]
  • 3296 A bloodless rebellion on Phekda(2,5) sees a new government with aspirations to join the Alliance. The Federation and Empire try and take Phekda(2,5) when it is discovered that the system is ripe for military fuel production. Skillful diplomacy and a show of force by the AJN repels the attack with little bloodshed. [7.1] [7.5]
  • 3296 Deep space probes return with news that the star, Betelgeuse, went supernova. The Alliance Science Council dispatches hundreds of deep space probes to study the nova. Meanwhile, a second LRA-object is discovered. Considerably more caution is taken examining this object. It still yields few secrets, and eventually disappears with a number of deep space probes attached to it. [7.5]
  • 3296 James Winston is captured by Federation forces and held in prison on Boston Base, Barnard's Star(-1,0). This creates a massive protest by AIS citizens and the military. Winston's nephew finds himself harassed by the Federals due to his presence on the station at the time of his uncle's capture. Membership in 'The Cause' increases exponentially as a result of Winston's alleged kidnapping by the Federation and imprisonment. 'The Cause' makes its official base on Davies Earth in the Quator(-3,-5) system and aquires the Long Range Cruiser Azure Sunset. [7.5]
  • 3298 Phekda(2,5) officially joins the AIS, and is the 25th system to do so. [7.5]
  • 3299 'Harald the Imposter' is deposed in a coup by the genuine Harald of the Achenarian Empire. [20.1]
 

rootsrat

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I would still take that with a grain of salt

  • 3293 The Emperor Hengist of the Achenar Empire steps down from the throne due to ill health, his son, Harold takes his place. [20.1]
  • 3294 James Winston steps down as Fleet Admiral, and becomes the commander of the Turner Space Combat Academy. [7.5]
  • 3294 'The Cause' is started by a group of anarchists dedicated to "bringing the concept of justice to populated space" through direct action against megacorporations and governments. [7.5]
  • 3296 The ITS Duval Dynasty is blown up by VLA terrorists. [20.2]
  • 3296 A bloodless rebellion on Phekda(2,5) sees a new government with aspirations to join the Alliance. The Federation and Empire try and take Phekda(2,5) when it is discovered that the system is ripe for military fuel production. Skillful diplomacy and a show of force by the AJN repels the attack with little bloodshed. [7.1] [7.5]
  • 3296 Deep space probes return with news that the star, Betelgeuse, went supernova. The Alliance Science Council dispatches hundreds of deep space probes to study the nova. Meanwhile, a second LRA-object is discovered. Considerably more caution is taken examining this object. It still yields few secrets, and eventually disappears with a number of deep space probes attached to it. [7.5]
  • 3296 James Winston is captured by Federation forces and held in prison on Boston Base, Barnard's Star(-1,0). This creates a massive protest by AIS citizens and the military. Winston's nephew finds himself harassed by the Federals due to his presence on the station at the time of his uncle's capture. Membership in 'The Cause' increases exponentially as a result of Winston's alleged kidnapping by the Federation and imprisonment. 'The Cause' makes its official base on Davies Earth in the Quator(-3,-5) system and aquires the Long Range Cruiser Azure Sunset. [7.5]
  • 3298 Phekda(2,5) officially joins the AIS, and is the 25th system to do so. [7.5]
  • 3299 'Harald the Imposter' is deposed in a coup by the genuine Harald of the Achenarian Empire. [20.1]

Like I said, the events presented here come from variety of different - official and unofficial - sources. Majority is from the previous games' in game events, but some are taken from fan-fiction - and that's the case for the ones marked with [20.1] - if you look at the bottom of the Chronicles you'll see these are from "Deathwreaker" :)

The one marked [7.5] are Extended Elite Timeline. Read the appendixes at the bottom - they explain a lot how the Chronicles were created.
 
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Yes, the ED timeline is a continuation of previous ones.

Have a look here for an extremely detailed timeline. This is fan made, but with strict adherence to the lore with many different sources of information.

http://wiki.alioth.net/index.php/Chronicles_of_the_Milky_Way

As I've said before many times, whilst I'm really grateful to the Alioth wiki folks, Jades, Daftworks and Dream-ware, there is an awful lot of fan addition in that specific timeline which did not feature in the proposed timeline for the new game.

For confirmed actual events its best to use the official fiction, the Frontier Gazetteer and what you can glean from Elite: Dangerous.
 
I have read on the timeline of the original Elite games and I know that Elite Dangerous' timeline is based on their. However, how far is the current lore based is on the older one? Have the Thargoid really invaded already in the current timeline?
If you read the official E: D fiction books, there are references to war with Thargoids. So, yes.
 

rootsrat

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As I've said before many times, whilst I'm really grateful to the Alioth wiki folks, Jades, Daftworks and Dream-ware, there is an awful lot of fan addition in that specific timeline which did not feature in the proposed timeline for the new game.

For confirmed actual events its best to use the official fiction, the Frontier Gazetteer and what you can glean from Elite: Dangerous.

That's true, but you can easily filter fan-made content by the referenced sources. And yeah - I agree, the guys did tremendous job there!
 
Some cool stuff in those Chronicles. I have high hopes for the alliance!
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3230 Argent Amalgamated Aerodynamics (Inc.) is formed by Meredith Argent and Mic Turner and based on the newly-renamed world of Argent's Claim, Alioth(0,4). The company immediately announces its position as "The Official Alliance Shipbuilder." Construction begins on the soon-to-be-famous New Rossyth shipyards. [7.5]
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3250 Scientists at New Rossyth Shipyards, backed by WBD&S and the Sirius Corporation design and build the revolutionary Class 4 Military Drive. It is determined that the new engine is so powerful that it can only be installed in ships of Python size or larger. [7.5]
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3250 New Rossyth Shipyards secretly builds the Crimson Arrow. It is first new Python class star cruiser in over two hundred years and is outfitted with the new Class 4 Military Drive. The addition of this new drive, plus the use of some new lighter and more durable hull materials gives the new ship the designation Python Mk. II. The ship blasts its way out of its hidden orbital hangar to avoid destruction by a surprise attack by the INRA and then engages its experimental hyperdrive and disappears. [7.5]
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3253 An official peace between Independent Alliance and Thargoids is established when the captured vaccine to the INRA's mycoid virus is stolen from a secret INRA research base and delivered by the crew of the Argent's Quest to the Thargoid home system of Miacke(-6,5). [7.5]
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3253 The first Thargoid warship ever to be flown by a human arrives in Alliance space. [7.5]
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3261 Alliance Joint Navy established by Rafe Wilson in Gateway in response to the Veliaze Crisis. Twenty Five Long Range Cruisers are retrofitted as capital battleships. [7.4] [7.5]
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3276 A strange object of unknown origin is discovered in the vicinity of Liazeda(-12,3). Named the LRA (Liazeda Radio Anomoly), the Alliance research ship, the Lion, is sent to investigate. The LRA and the ship disappears and its fate is still unknown in 3296. Only a handful of crew, who were deploying probes from two Explorer-class vessels return. [7.5]
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The Elite Timeline is a merging of the material of the official games and the fan fiction. There are some things (timings, mainly) that need to be slightly fixed to fit in with Elite: Dangerous (for instance, everything happening after 3300 needs to be moved back a bit). They are all done respecting the canon of the game lore *BUT*

The LRA was from a short story that was written about 5 or 6 years after FFE came out. It's unknown whether Frontier Developments have ever read the story. It's entirely possible that they have of course, and it would be awesome if it even had just the most oblique reference in ED!

All the stuff about the AJN - similar. It filled a gap between FFE and Elite Dangerous, but again it was just a possible logical progression of the game's story in the intervening years.

I sincerely hope that Frontier work it into the lore of Elite Dangerous having been involved in it back in the day (it was written in a way such that it could be pulled into the lore of what was just known as "the possible Elite 4" back then). But I'm not holding my breath. Any short stories I write now from the point of view of characters related to this stuff only refer to things that can't be contradicted by a complete about-face in the developing Elite Dangerous lore.

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And by the way, if anyone wants to contribute to an Elite Dangerous wiki on wiki.alioth.net (which is free from the awful eye clawing out layout of Wikia and its advertising) I can start looking into way of automating logins again without opening the floodgates to spammers.
 
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but I thought in the original games humanity eventually made peace with the thargoids cos they gave them an antidote to a virus. so why do we not see them outside the occasional sightings and why do they seem to be hostile

I know this thread is old but i'm confused about it anyway
 
Why do you think they're hostile? Are you sure what you've seen in ED is actually what you think it is? :)

I think FDEV's official line on the ending of FFE is that there are multiple possible endings and we(the players) don't know which one is true. Also, not all of humanity made peace with the Thargoids, if any. As Allen said, the best bet is to stick to official fiction from Elite/FE2/FFE and then only as a guide; same for what happened in FFE storyline and what's in the FFE news articles - after all, which papers do you believe in real life? ;)

What's clear is that for ED we can only rely on sources sanctioned by FDev, so that's the stuff they publish directly: in game, on the ED website, in the game manual, etc; and the licensed fiction - see the posts that Drew and Allen have both written on this in the past.
 
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