The CG at Morai and why I cannot help but consider uninstalling Elite Dangerous.

But they did, now to be fair they should do more. Only seems logical.

Maybe they can have us transport salt somewhere? I know a great source...

They should think about it ecological and remove the CG payout.
This would create a ton of new salt mines and would be much better than exploiting the one they got now for more than its yielding.
 
They should think about it ecological and remove the CG payout.
This would create a ton of new salt mines and would be much better than exploiting the one they got now for more than its yielding.

I don't think you are saying what you are trying to say.....

how is the scientific analysis and study of interactions among organisms and their environment have anything to do with what you get paid for doing it?

Nevermind. this guys just too far gone. There's no helping it. Volunteers requested to help with his euthanasia.
 
I don't think you are saying what you are trying to say.....

how is the scientific analysis and study of interactions among organisms and their environment have anything to do with what you get paid for doing it?

Nevermind. this guys just too far gone. There's no helping it. Volunteers requested to help with his euthanasia.

Mistakes should be corrected. As simple as that.
 
Don't worry OP, i totaly understand your feeling, cause i'm hurt too by this fool reward. I think ED is this kind of game where more you invest in time, more you must gain Cr. I have put may be something like 800h in Open to make traditional trade, finding my own trade routes and mining... I was really pround to say I have GAIN my Cr with my serious work, my Cr balance in ED is clean and honorable. But, since gamma, FD continually devaluating the ratio time/ credit, in order to please to all casuals and kids you want all the stuff without the grind, without working for it... PP, CG, it all about giving free money to whiners...
Well, i advise you, just stop looking others, and accept FD politic all turned arround casualisation of their game. I'll not desinstall cause i really love driving my ships arround the universe, but i'll clearly stop to try to keep my gameplay clean. Now, i ll stack missions, I delog - relog, I ll make CG, i ll use EDDB, I ll trade in solo and I'll make a full heat meta FDL and free kill all harmless condas and others high end ships i'll meet ! Why must i work to gain money when all surrounding pilotes just gain more, quickly and easly by using FD stuff... Really OP we are the idiots !
 
Don't use other people as a measure of your own success. You are bound to be disappointed when taking such attitude.

Especially in this game where the credits of others has very little impact on you.

Are you happy with playing the game? That is all that should matter. If you aren't having fun with the game, for whatever reasons I'm not going to care about, then it is time to move on.

Fly safe, CMDR!
 
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Don't use other people as a measure of your own success. You are bound to be disappointed when taking such attitude.

Especially in this game where the credits of others has very little impact on you.

Are you happy with playing the game? That is all that should matter.

If you are playing ED like a solo game, yes your are right, I think our error (OP and someplayers like me) was to think ED was a Multiplayer Online game, but don't worry i think, after 2 dreaming years, we had understand it's really not the case :)
 
If you are playing ED like a solo game, yes your are right, I think our error (OP and someplayers like me) was to think ED was a Multiplayer Online game, but don't worry i think, after 2 dreaming years, we had understand it's really not the case :)

Even in Open it isn't of much consequence. The big ships have plenty of disadvantages that are easily exploited or advantages that are easily avoided.

I fly a Cutter because it makes me feel like a BOSS. But when I want to get down to brass tax and play with others, I"m usually in my Vulture, Asp or Imp. Courier. I did't get in on the huge money exploit that was the first version of rare trades. I didn't get upset over it, because it was actually very fun to get in my Eagle and gang up on a person flying an Anaconda they have no skill with, yet. Or Robigo, I came to that party super late, and the massive profits gained from that, prior to the mission limit had literally zero effect on my play, except give lots of entertainment.

Frontier could give everyone 1 Billion credits and I don't think anything would really change.
 
Even in Open it isn't of much consequence. The big ships have plenty of disadvantages that are easily exploited or advantages that are easily avoided.

I fly a Cutter because it makes me feel like a BOSS. But when I want to get down to brass tax and play with others, I"m usually in my Vulture, Asp or Imp. Courier. I did't get in on the huge money exploit that was the first version of rare trades. I didn't get upset over it, because it was actually very fun to get in my Eagle and gang up on a person flying an Anaconda they have no skill with, yet. Or Robigo, I came to that party super late, and the massive profits gained from that, prior to the mission limit had literally zero effect on my play, except give lots of entertainment.

Frontier could give everyone 1 Billion credits and I don't think anything would really change.

Yea i got your point, in some way you are right, i know, i'm the idiot, because simply by "honor" i haven't use all these casual and easy win tools. Hard but True. The main PB is, you are flying a big ship, and loose in some fight vs a cmdr with free money, you loose play time, he don't. Here is the real probleme. In a correct PvP game, you think before engagement and balance the good and the bad (what i'll loose if i loose this fight) and it balance PvP, in ED, with free money in each corner of the galaxy and all exploits, this balance don't exist anymore. The death isn't punitive anymore for all players with more than 1 week of game and you can be a psycho without any problem.... I lose my conda ? NP, 1 robigo run and i can pay 2 time my insurrance... Easy cr is a bad way.
 
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I should have played something else at least.



Read the example.
Back then tbis was way harder to begin with.
But more importandly this is the thing.
If you got 4-5 hours per day to play ED you surely dont care.
But now imagine you only had 2-3 hours per week. Then it might make more sense to you why i care about my time being wasted.

So yer past year/2 years were wasted time? I disagree...you were playing a game you enjoyed, otherwise you suffered a masochistic experience which you now deem to have been time wasted. If you enjoyed playing the game, regardless what mechanics are in play, then it's not wasted time. I might have wasted my time working on another game in an attempt to revive it somewhat, while all my friends coincidentally came to play this...I enjoyed what I was doing at the time even though that particular game is on the ropes anyway now.

Many would argue that sitting in front of a screen fer any amount of time where yer not being paid for it is a waste of time but however, moving on.

I remember a time when I didn't have much time fer games back when I worked 6 days a week...and that free time was divided up into many different areas of my life. I would have gone fer months without so much as thinking about gaming simple because the time required was a luxury I didn't have. I didn't sit and cry about it or complain about it with my old clan members who had all the time in the world to sit and play all day and night. The blow was softened by the fact I could still dominate even though I practiced a whole lot less and I appreciated the time more...now it's like meh whatever.

Newsflash...that's life so enjoy it while it lasts. Some of us would give our right hand to be able to work again and have a more normal life than this where we don't have all the time in the world to sit and rot. Frankly, I'm envious of the hardworking life so yer complaints about how hard it is to find time just doesn't wash.

Yes, have a moan about it by all means, but by the sounds of things, your beef ain't with players, it's with FD. Just sayin ^^
 
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Frontier could give everyone 1 Billion credits and I don't think anything would really change.

Actually I think it would. It would remove a whole load of personal objectives for pilots within the game and turn your bank balance into nothing more than a scoreboard.

I like coming across an unexpectedly lucrative mission, or getting a couple of decent bounties whilst scanning a nav point. Things that help towards my current goal of obtaining my next target ship. I don't want to get it all in one go and take away one of the main motivations in the game.

I have to say that I don't really understand those who rail against the 'grind' in ED or 'time to earn', after all, the 'grind' is actually the core of the game itself, which we all play because presumably, we enjoy it.

The 1M mission which lets you buy your ASP X is no more enjoyable than the 30K mission that gave you enough to get your cobra MKIII.
 
Your post was ignored cuz its common knowledge that your wrong.

Tier 3 on 6 million is a normal CG and usually comes out 20-30 million if its finished.
Nothing even close to the 200 million of this one.
This CG has dwarfed all prior CG by factor 5 or higher to be precise

How am I wrong? How do you know it would have played out that way, considering the missions are the same but one was ignored and the other was successful? Let's look at the missions side by side:

Federation:
The Federation has placed an open order for autofabricators, tantalum and superconductors for use in the construction, and has authorised the Workers of Gooheimar Alliance to reward pilots who deliver the requested materials to Brady Horizons in the Gooheimar system.

Empire:
The Empire has placed an open order for supplies and has authorized the Morai Nobles to reward pilots who deliver Autofabricators, Tantalum or Superconductors to van de Hulst Vision in the Morai System.

They are the exact same mission, with the factions flipped and different locations. The reason the Federation one didn't have the same payout is because people ignored the CG and it only got to Tier 3. The main reason Morai blew up was because a bunch of us were dumping stuff into it already, then it got posted on Reddit, and then droves of players came out and flooded the CG with materials. But it's not a mistake, it's that this is the first CG of this kind to really get attention. Most people ignore the trade CG's. In economics (not ecology), this even makes sense. Superpowers in a cold war type situation, where each is trying to get the upper hand in military superiority, will often throw money at people to get stuff done. This actually happens in real life economies. And the payouts aren't outside of what the Empire could shell out, considering they want these ships now.

If you get insulting just cuz people ignore your post you should maybe not make claims on other peoples age....
Sigh......

An insult would be to call you a petulant 10 year old. It's not an insult to point out that you're acting like a petulant 10 year old. Love the emo "sigh..." at the end, it really shows your level of maturity. It kind of reminds me of Comic Book Guy on The Simpsons.
 
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So yer past year/2 years were wasted time? I disagree...you were playing a game you enjoyed, otherwise you suffered a masochistic experience which you now deem to have been time wasted. If you enjoyed playing the game, regardless what mechanics are in play, then it's not wasted time. I might have wasted my time working on another game in an attempt to revive it somewhat, while all my friends coincidentally came to play this...I enjoyed what I was doing at the time even though that particular game is on the ropes anyway now.

Many would argue that sitting in front of a screen fer any amount of time where yer not being paid for it is a waste of time but however, moving on.

I remember a time when I didn't have much time fer games back when I worked 6 days a week...and that free time was divided up into many different areas of my life. I would have gone fer months without so much as thinking about gaming simple because the time required was a luxury I didn't have. I didn't sit and cry about it or complain about it with my old clan members who had all the time in the world to sit and play all day and night. The blow was softened by the fact I could still dominate even though I practiced a whole lot less and I appreciated the time more...now it's like meh whatever.

Newsflash...that's life so enjoy it while it lasts. Some of us would give our right hand to be able to work again and have a more normal life than this where we don't have all the time in the world to sit and rot. Frankly, I'm envious of the hardworking life so yer complaints about how hard it is to find time just doesn't wash.

Yes, have a moan about it by all means, but by the sounds of things, your beef ain't with players, it's with FD. Just sayin ^^

This Feedback was to FD in the first place.
Other users seeking beef with me by annoying me with their gibberish sniping is just an side effect you get for free whenever you post a feedback in this Forum.
 
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