The Code's Presence at Emperor's Dawn's Community Goals

[GluttonyFang]

Hello Elite Dangerous Community,

The Emperor's Dawn is an organization that we have been particularly interested in. Its ties with the death of Emperor has excited our fascination. We will be deploying several specialized wings to investigate this particular order of hunting down the Emperor's Dawn. Depending on our assessment of the situation, we will either support the eradication of Emperor's Dawn, or we will support the Emperor's Dawn in its resistance. We respect our pilots' discretion in the field and react to situations as appropriate.

Sincerely,

Gluttony Fang

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Update I:

We have acknowledged Emperor's Dawn effort as legitimate and will be supporting the Emperor's Dawn in fighting against the current combat community goals. However, we will compensating ourselves by pirating the trading community goals as our payment for our effort against the combat community goals.

 

[Macros Black]

Clever, choosing the winning side is always good tactics. Saves you the trouble of running away again, tails between your yellow thrusters.

Preempting another Hutton PR disaster sequel, are we?

 

[GluttonyFang]

Clever, choosing the winning side is always good tactics. Saves you the trouble of running away again, tails between your yellow thrusters.

Preempting another Hutton PR disaster sequel, are we?

We didn't choose a side o-o?

Edit:

And now we did.

 

[Falcon_D]

Hello Elite Dangerous Community,

The Emperor's Dawn is an organization that we have been particularly interested in. Its ties with the death of Emperor has excited our fascination. We will be deploying several specialized wings to investigate this particular order of hunting down the Emperor's Dawn. Depending on our assessment of the situation, we will either support the eradication of Emperor's Dawn, or we will support the Emperor's Dawn in its resistance. We respect our pilots' discretion in the field and react to situations as appropriate.

Sincerely,

Gluttony Fang

Interesting. I'm fighting for the opposite side of course, trying to do the CG as well as gain some credits. But I've had this particularly nagging feeling that the Pilot's Federation has not been told the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth behind this conflict.

 

[Cmdr Eran Mintor]

Care to elaborate on why you chose Emperor's Dawn? Your pilots seem to not care about the effects this may have on the Empire. "Boss" told them to, so they do it.

Spoiler

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Your pilots fired upon me first and tried to strong-arm me into joining Emperor's Dawn. They provided no reason to other than it would mean my death if I didn't.

I'll have you know I'm alive and well...

 

[DigitalMandalorian]

Care to elaborate on why you chose Emperor's Dawn? Your pilots seem to not care about the effects this may have on the Empire. "Boss" told them to, so they do it.

Spoiler

http://i.imgur.com/38dDafK.png

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http://i.imgur.com/YVuKkGG.jpg

Your pilots fired upon me first and tried to strong-arm me into joining Emperor's Dawn. They provided no reason to other than it would mean my death if I didn't.

I'll have you know I'm alive and well...

Maausk is a war-zone, all pilots are to chose their sides (no offence to The Filthy Neutrals). We believe Emperor's Dawn has legitimate reasons behind their operation. As I said to you in another thread, "We're supporting Emperor's Dawn in the Combat CG. We are taking compensation by pirating the trade CG's in Ipilyawa and Ch'i Lin.".

Sundae is member of The Smiling Dog Crew, not The Code, but they are flying with us. Code leadership has laid down the orders and rules of engagement for these Community Goals.

 

[Vasious]

Just to Clarify

You are assisitng the Emperor's Dawn in the Combat CG
and thus as payment are Pirating people delivery goods to the Emperors Dawn, to sell there yourself?

 

[Ornee Shaula]

Smiling Dog Crew have chosen to support Emperor's Dawn with Code for different reasons, we figure that since everybody is going to align with Emperor's Grace and we consider this unfair against Emperor's Dawn and will consider anyone fighting against Emperor's Grace as a hostile mercenary

 

[GluttonyFang]

You are assisitng the Emperor's Dawn in the Combat CG and thus as payment are Pirating people delivery goods to the Emperors Dawn, to sell there yourself?

That would make sense, I don't see why would anyone not deliver the goods considering the CG pay, but that's for member discretion, ultimately.

 

[Cmdr Eran Mintor]

No reason has been provided as to why you see Emperor's Dawn as the group in the right. As has been stated by the pictures previously linked, your "boss" told you what to do so you did it. Who is your "boss" by the way?

Not sure why you mention Sundae but he is flying with CODE and other members of the Kumo Crew; label him/her how you want but that's your wingman. Smiling Dog Crew flies with CODE enough they are pretty much one in the same.

Edit: Also you (SDC) chose Emperor's Dawn because everyone else was fighting against them? You really thought that one out. Sounds to me like you were just looking for targets. You know honesty goes a lot further in this world than poor excuses. I look forward to the next time I see you in space, Ornee.

 

[DigitalMandalorian]

Not sure why you mention Sundae but he is flying with CODE and other members of the Kumo Crew; label him/her how you want but that's your wingman. Smiling Dog Crew flies with CODE enough they are pretty much one in the same.

Why did I mention Sundae? Did you even look at your own screenshots and see who you were speaking to?

Also, we aren't part of the Kumo Crew and haven't been for a while. If you don't even know that much you should go ahead and stop commenting on the inner workings of our organisation as if you have a clue.

Code has no control over The Smiling Dog Crew, as long as they don't interfere with our piracy or other operations we fly and wing up together. It doesn't mean we are the same group or they are a subsidiary. People from different groups are allowed to be friends and still maintain independence.

 

[Cmdr Eran Mintor]

Sundae wasn't the only one I was interacting with. You couldn't see who was shooting me either, but I guess you'll just have to take my word that Sundae wasn't the only one.

I suppose you want to say that because SDC is separate from CODE I shouldn't group the two of you together. Perhaps this would make sense but the two groups always fly together so maybe you'll see it's hard to differentiate the two of you.

Further, you seem to be speaking as some sort of representative of Smiling Dog Crew and say that "Code leadership has laid down the orders and rules of engagement for these Community Goals." How am I to believe you're separate if you're following the rules from a separate group?

Also you all have yet to explain why Emperor's Dawn is to be supported besides the threats I was given that "Grace is a death sentence". I understand successful extortion is respected when in Archon's group but it won't win the hearts and minds. Perhaps if there is a clear explanation why Emperor's Dawn is the side to fight for, I may change my mind.

Edit: As a side note, if you are wishing to support Emperor's Dawn, it would make no sense to pirate the convoys aiming to assist Emperor's Dawn in Ipilyawa and Ch'i Lin. Is there any thought behind the bullets you spew?

 

[Vasious]

Edit: As a side note, if you are wishing to support Emperor's Dawn, it would make no sense to pirate the convoys aiming to assist Emperor's Dawn in Ipilyawa and Ch'i Lin. Is there any thought behind the bullets you spew?

Sure it does, so long as they themselves still delivery the cargo to the Emperor's Dawn

1. Emperor's Dawn announces it will pay well for PC and Narcotics, money buys a certain kind, but is it the kind they will keep about if they succeed....
2. Morally Flexible traders goes to sell PC and Narcotics to Emperor's Dawn, bees to honey.
3. On the way a small % of Morally Flexible Traders are robbed by Code Privateer/Pirate
4. Morally Flexible Traders learn what it is like when doing business with a Criminal Faction, dog eat dog.
5. Code Privateer/Pirate Delivers PC and Narcotics to Emperor's Dawn and receives payment
6. Emperor's Dawn's nefarious plans are moved forward to completion.

 

[Ornee Shaula]

Further, you seem to be speaking as some sort of representative of Smiling Dog Crew and say that "Code leadership has laid down the orders and rules of engagement for these Community Goals." How am I to believe you're separate if you're following the rules from a separate group? [/QUOTE]

SDC work with Code as consultants, we are freelance mercenaries and have an arrangement where we help them and they help us, we fly together but our agendas and ethos are different, SDC are a serious internet spaceships PvP group not Roleplaying Pirates and don't feel the need to respond to players qualms grievances or tears, we get sworn at and abused every day beyond people outright calling us cheats then combat logging. If those things make those people feel better about being a loser then so be it.
Just to clear some things up, Code does not speak for or control SDC's actions and is therefore not responsible for, or answerable to things we do while in their company or on our own. I know from my experience running and being part of the leadership of player groups for some time across many games I know that if I spend my time on forums trying to stem the tears of the dead my group has caused I will never actually get to play the game, so SDC's responses will be few and far between and will mostly contain a verbose and tactful tldr that will say "Sorry, but we aren't going to apologize for your loss and don't have to justify SDC's actions because anyone else says so"
So you can stop calling out Code leadership on our behalf or saying that we are them, Sundae told you joining Emperors Grace was a death sentence, thats a whole sentence more than he had to tell you and gave you all the info you needed to make a decision as to whether you wanted to PvP with him or not, other sites were free, you could have aligned with Dawn and flew with us at which point you may have been invited to wing and comms.
You decided you didn't want to take the advice and you cry when you get shot at, here's the full reason from SDC's stand point, we PvP and we want to blow up your ship, if we don't just do it and give you some kind of chance to align with us or escape before it goes wrong then for your sake don't be a hero, for the sake of my need to watch things die in a ball of fire do be a hero, just don't cry to Gluttony about SDC pilots... We are Elite, We are Dangerous

 

[Asp Explorer]

More chestbeating from Facebook Gangs in Space. This is hilarious, keep it up lads

 

[mxcross2002]

Hello Elite Dangerous Community,

The Emperor's Dawn is an organization that we have been particularly interested in. Its ties with the death of Emperor has excited our fascination. We will be deploying several specialized wings to investigate this particular order of hunting down the Emperor's Dawn. Depending on our assessment of the situation, we will either support the eradication of Emperor's Dawn, or we will support the Emperor's Dawn in its resistance. We respect our pilots' discretion in the field and react to situations as appropriate.

Sincerely,

Gluttony Fang

---

Update I:

We have acknowledged Emperor's Dawn effort as legitimate and will be supporting the Emperor's Dawn in fighting against the current combat community goals. However, we will compensating ourselves by pirating the trading community goals as our payment for our effort against the combat community goals.

well that's my question answered fang

 

[A Lien]

It's like those kids in pre-school who just have to destroy that snowman the class built to call attention to them. Oh well...

 

[goemon]

...will be supporting the Emperor's Dawn in fighting against the current combat community goals. However, we will compensating ourselves by pirating the trading community goals as our payment for our effort against the combat community goals.

+rep for propper rping! even if that's more style of the Thirty Years' War Armies....

That would make sense, I don't see why would anyone not deliver the goods considering the CG pay, but that's for member discretion, ultimately.

that won't work from the game-mechanic, at least not with prog cells, as long as they don't have a bug i don't know of? you'd need a black market in Ipilyaqa, to sell stolen goods ... and i doubt they'd count for the cg if sold via the bm.

now, for that black market Chi'Lin is missing, if chi'lin gets a black market, we can get the show running with narcotics. and it should work with pirated narcotics...

 

[Cmdr Eran Mintor]

@ Ornee.

Good sir I am not "crying" that I got shot at. I simply am asking for more explanation as to why CODE/SDC is supporting Emperor's Dawn, which no explanation has really been given. Perhaps you should re-read what I've said and not put words in my mouth, eh?

 

[Tuub t Tute]

They've picked the side that gives them the most "targets of opportunity", or fish in their barrel. for no other reason than they can. /RP off