The credits per hour and the 'end game'

KellyR

KellyR
I know this has been said before, but I think it bears repeating.

First, I love this game. Yeah, it's got some problems. Everything has problems. That's called life. But for all its faults, I still love it.

I read posts on here about credits per hour and the Grind and the End Game. To me, looking at things from a credits per hour standpoint is just about the worst thing you can do (unless you enjoy grinding). I know, you want a python, or an Anaconda, or a Beluga or [insert ship class here]. "I need a high credits per hour to get that ship." Poppycock!! Getting an Anaconda, Python, Cutter etc by grinding is one of the worst things you can do (unless you are one of the few who actually enjoys grinding and if so, great, get it). If you are grinding then you probably don't want to be doing it. I have never done the grind. Even though I'm an Ensign in the Federal Reserve. And I have 2 pythons. I had a Python and a Type 9, but I sold the type 9 cause it just wasn't fun to fly. So now I have a death machine Python, and an unarmed freighter Python. But the closest I came to grinding was in that T-9 and only because it maneuvered like a mobile asteroid. I didn't like it so I sold it for something that is actually fun to fly.

I don't do Trade CG's cause they obviously don't really care about their goal. I mean, they'll close their commodity market if they hit a rough patch. You want goods but you close your commodity market? [wacko] I just play the game. No grind, no doing stuff I don't want to do. Just. Play. The. Game. The credits will come quickly enough. Remember, as with a lot of things in life, Elite Dangerous is not about the destination, it's about the journey. Grind if you want, hey everyone has different preferences, but if grind isn't your thing (it's not for most, but maybe it is for you) then don't do it. Just play the game.

Now, about the End Game. People ask, "What's your end game ship? I guess I'm at the end game then, cause for me, the Python is the end game ship. And I still play and will continue to play. I purely love the Python. Yeah, it's got a thin skin. No, the jump range isn't the greatest. But in the right hands it maneuvers very well and is a joy to fly. But no matter what ship is your end game ship, once you get it, play the game and enjoy it. They say play your way? Well, if you have your end game ship, you can play your way. But (and here's the most important part) have fun. That's the whole point of this exercise.
 
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Safepuppy

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I agree with you.

I'm currently flying a fully engineered Keelback and having a whale of a time.
Really not sure how that happened, but it's fun.

Saying that, I've got plenty of credits and tried all the ships already.
I remember the days of wanting the next ship I hadn't tried yet, wanting just a few more credits for rebuys.

The end game? What you say ☺
 

KellyR

KellyR
signal11th said:
Thought the whole point of Elite was there is no end game?
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That was my understanding as well. But I've seen quite a few posts on here about what to do once you've gotten your dream ship. And my answer is, as always, "Do what you want. Play the game your way. Now that you've gotten to that position, you can do it your way. But some people just don't want to listen. I think, often times, they complain just for the sport of it.

And yeah, I remember those days too. And you know what? If I want to repeat them, I can. All I have to do is clear my save.
 
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lokvette

lokvette
Ive never understood the term end game in a game like ED, theres top tier but no end game, as for credits per hour if thats how people want to play who am I say other wise. I think a lot off people buy ED and then find its not what it first appears, a quick fix shotem up in space.

I might be wrong and I do hope in this day and age with the likes of youtube etc people dont just buy a game on the marketing or its PR or indeed its cinmatic vids on YT: Gone are the days of reading a review in a mag, going down to the games store and looking at the box and reading the splurg on the back of it, thinking yeah this might be good. (I did however buy BF2142 thinking it was a RTS, then spent the better part of 6 years playing the BF games being in and running clans servers etc.)

Back on topic, I own an ASPX (for passanger runs, and scouting) Imp Courier, (it looks the dogs dangly bits and its fun to fly) Annaconda, (multi role, im in it now out in the black) an FDL (CZ BH) and a Python, which is my main go to ship when im in the bubble, love the ship I have had others but when they are just sitting there doing nothing I though why have them.

To finsh Im very much like the OP, there is no rush to get anywhere in ED because then it does become a grind, Im not saying that some of this game is indeed a grindfest, it is there are parts of it however many times people try and say its not, in my mind it is, thus I stop doign that and go with the flow and play the game for fun, untill such time its not fun and I lurk around here spouting all kinds of bio waste over the place :)
 

CMDR Cosmic Spacehead

CMDR Cosmic Spacehead
I think people see "end game" and assume it's the end of the game. You've won.

Really, end game is just another term for "late game".

I consider myself a late gamer in Elite. I got a Corvette, Anaconda (X2), Python, FDL..
It's only the filthy Imperial ships I don't have. :p

I only really ground (grinded?) rank for the Corvette. And that alone burnt me out. Lol

End/late game wishlist for me is basically more challenging things to do in my end/late game ships.

I mean, there's no point having a semi invincible Anaconda/Corvette/Python/FDL if I'm still facing the same enemies I could be before I have those ships.

Sometimes I wonder if this game could have done with some artificial gating to work towards... No idea what. But being able to do anything from day 0 means at day 1000~, you're still doing the same thing. Lol

CMDR Cosmic Spacehead
 

Cmdr Eagleboy

Cmdr Eagleboy
It is how people approach games.

For some people it is something to beat, something to be best at. And I understand them.

For some people it is something to experience now and then, something to go trough as journey.

ED is more rooted in second playstyle. That's where ED is best.
 

fabittar

fabittar
I've been enjoying the "endgame" in my Cobra Mk III, and I am yet to engineer anything on it - but I do plan to.

Credits are completely irrelevant at this point.
 

SAB380

SAB380
Weird thread.
So OP likes the most popular ship in the game enough to buy two and doesn’t feel the need to also buy one of the large ships, so potters about instead.
Great.
 
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Stealthie

Stealthie
Said it before but people are quite happy to invest thousands of hours into things like FSX and there's (almost) nothing to do at all, aside from piloting the plane.
It's just a case of start the game up, decide to fly from, say, Manchester to Liverpool and that's your lot for a couple of hours.
You can look at the hills and the roads and the buildings as you travel but that's about it.

For those of us who prefer spaceships to aircraft, on it's worst day ED provides more content than a flight-sim does.
There's enough stuff on the Canonn website (bless 'em[up]) to keep me playing ED for years without wanting to make another credit, unless I was forced to.
 

Sylveria

Sylveria
There really isn't an "end game" in ED. The whole point of this game is the journey and not the destination.

That's why you see a lot of "loading screens!", "SC is too slow!", "instant transfer nao!", "space is empty!", etc. nonsense threads popping up constantly. These people soon become disenfranchised when they realize they bought the wrong game, attempt to become master forum-fu warriors and think FD is going to fundamentally change the entire game to suit their personal needs. When someone serves them up with logic and points out their mistake they then accuse them of "white knighting".

Lather, rinse, repeat.
 
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Cmdr Eagleboy

Cmdr Eagleboy
Sylveria said:
There really isn't an "end game" in ED. The whole point of this game is the journey and not the destination.
That's why you see a lot of "loading screens!", "SC is too slow!", "instant transfer nao!", "space is empty!", etc. nonsense threads popping up constantly. These people soon become disenfranchised when they realize they bought the wrong game, attempt to become master forum-fu warriors and think FD is going to fundamentally change the entire game to suit their personal needs. When someone serves them up with logic and points out their mistake they then accuse them of "white knighting".
Lather, rinse, repeat.
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And it is sad because they would gain so much when approaching game a little bit more differently. Many people pointed this out that ED 'opened up' for them when they stopped to care about their long term goals. It is fine to dislike game, it is subjective entertainment, that's why there's so many creative people around the globe, but it feels it is just cast aside...because it is demanded that game yields to player, not player embraces game.

It is a tricky thing to get right. ED is not there yet, but over years FD has mastered a bit of what's needed.
 

fabittar

fabittar
Stealthie said:
Said it before but people are quite happy to invest thousands of hours into things like FSX and there's (almost) nothing to do at all, aside from piloting the plane.
It's just a case of start the game up, decide to fly from, say, Manchester to Liverpool and that's your lot for a couple of hours.
You can look at the hills and the roads and the buildings as you travel but that's about it.

For those of us who prefer spaceships to aircraft, on it's worst day ED provides more content than a flight-sim does.
There's enough stuff on the Canonn website (bless 'em[up]) to keep me playing ED for years without wanting to make another credit, unless I was forced to.
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So true. Planning a visit to Jameson's crashed ship some day soon. Canonn gave me lots of cool destinations to visit.
 

the source 0179

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KellyR said:
That was my understanding as well. But I've seen quite a few posts on here about what to do once you've gotten your dream ship. And my answer is, as always, "Do what you want. Play the game your way. Now that you've gotten to that position, you can do it your way. But some people just don't want to listen. I think, often times, they complain just for the sport of it.

And yeah, I remember those days too. And you know what? If I want to repeat them, I can. All I have to do is clear my save.
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Agreed. The thing I've noticed about this game is that some of the players are so overly vocal about how the game should be played and telling other people how to play or what they need to do and how they play the game wrong.

Well these people need to calm down and realize that this is an open ended game with no story driven direction or even rules or even slight guidance from FD what to do.
It is your game to play as you like and want.
And make your own story within the galaxy.
If you want to start the game and go through the ship progression how you think it should be and spend 20 years playing the game and never care about money. Do it quietly and dont tell other people they are playing wrong.
If you want to do pvp and thats all. Do it quietly and dont tell other people they are playing wrong.
If you want to gather 100 000 000 000 cr and own everyship do it quietly and dont tell other people they are playing wrong.
This is your game. Play it how you want because its NOT a single player story driven linear game even FD dont tell you how to play it. They just react to the loudest and adjust things. The thing is if there is money farms in elite you dont have to use it and you shouldn't get upset that other people use it because guess what it doesnt effect your game the way you want to play. Just play it and stop telling other people how to play or want FD to change things so other people dont play it the way you dont like.

If there was a point to this game it would have a story driven campaign and guidance of what FD wanted you to do.
Peace out
 
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