Newcomer / Intro The game is disappointing.

[LCplCombat]

Did you have a real problem that we can help you with... lots of help available here for Newbies

THIS!

There is nothing in the game to help you understand what is going on, what you can achieve, what the game mechanics are, or how to do anything. The only way to find out HOW to play is to visit the Forums. If you were unaware of the Forums what how long would you try to play the game?

 

[the100thmonkey]

@WishYouWould - Multiplayer is available - you just have to head to the part of the galaxy where its at. Starter positions are varied and some are more populated than others. If you have friends then you can Wing up and play as a Wing. One of the issues with this game is the fact there are 400 billion systems with currently 400000 players most of whom will not be on line at any one time, so the player density is quite low.

^This. Just head to Lave/Leesti/Zaonce/etc., and you'll see loads more players. Some of them will even try to kil you for no good reason, if PvP is what you're into.

Well while I do appreciate all of the suggestions and points brought up in the thread I also do not know how I am to enjoy a game that has nothing appealing to me. With that said I have contacted Frontier about a refund being as nice as possible. Seeing as they told me they could not refund me I have opened a dispute. I was under the impression the game was going to be more multiplayer than it is in its current state. Thanks again though for the effort to keep it civil. I wish I had the chance to get more involved with the community before now due to the fact It might have made my purchase worth it. Sadly I did not.

The community is, in certain parts of the FD boards, very good. Others... well, not so much. However, it's not really too late unless you want it to be - you can still have a go and try to find a way to enjoy the game now that you know that the features you want are actually available. Personally, I think you're on a hiding to nothing with regard to the refund, as the features sold are the features available. I'm not even sure your bank will support you.

If you want a large multiplayer group, look at the Dangerous Groups forum - there are many clans for each faction, with different foci. For example, you have The Mercenaries of Mikunn (Independent?), who are focused on testing the background simulation and trying to flip system ownership and the like, the Elite Diplomatic Corps (Alliance), who do a similar thing, CODE (anarchy/independent) - A PvP pirate faction; don't let them tell you otherwise! - Communism Interstellar (independent), the East India Trading Company (Empire), etc., etc. The game is loads more fun when you're in a group.

One of the most common issues people have with the game is lack of overarching narrative structure. Elite has always been this way, and always will be. This is why groups are so important - you have the opportunity to interact with like-minded individuals, and the goals set by the community you join fill the "gap" left by the lack of narrative. The game demands a lot from its players in terms of what they bring to it, but it gives back more than what you bring if you do, in my opinion.

 

[butcherbird]

So I begin the game in a system with no idea what to do or where to go. The quests are not achievable nor are they worth doing imo.

This thread kind of surprises me -- not much though -- as I've spent my first few weeks so far ONLY in Solo play, and I haven't been bored one minute. In another thread, I was talking about the state of mind of today's younger gamer, and this is a good example ... gamers today don't know how to make their own adventure. Instead, they want to be told where to go & what to do -- lead through a story. And, the game is a fail if they don't get immediate action & results.

Sorry to hear you gave up so soon, but it's not your fault. You're just a different kind of gamer.

To other new players, like me, who have the patience to create their own story ... welcome!

 

[InMemoriamSirocco]

What kind of culture brings forth individuals who think it is perfectly normal behaviour to not only demand a refund for every product they buy based on their very own personal disappointing experience with it, but also to initiate a legal dispute about the 50 bucks they spent on their own risk and try to discourage others from buying the same product?

 

[Runnybabbit]

To the OP, I fail to understand how you find the quests unachievable? I've never played a space sim/game before now, and I've managed (so far!) to achieve each and every one. Where I'm not sure of how to go about something, I use an enquiring mind, look for information, and ask questions if I can't find the suitable answer on the/a forum.

I don't have a University degree, and have had various professions, all of them involving manual work. Add to that, nearly 60 years old, I should have a problem, but I don't. I tend to believe, that the reason I don't have a problem, is that the game is designed for all ages, and most levels of intelligence.

Please don't take my comments personally, they aren't meant or designed to be derogatory. As others have said, not every game is for everybody/not everyone's cup of tea, etc..

Good luck with your attempt to get your money back, but I think you may find it difficult if not impossible. I'm not a lawyer, but I would suspect you would have to prove that the game was miss advertised or not fit for purpose (or similar approaches).

Regards!

 

[xyphic]

What kind of culture brings forth individuals who think it is perfectly normal behaviour to not only demand a refund for every product they buy based on their very own personal disappointing experience with it, but also to initiate a legal dispute about the 50 bucks they spent on their own risk and try to discourage others from buying the same product?

Banks tend to swing almost completely in favour of the customer in cases like this. In order to play the game you must have downloaded it, and as part of UK consumer legislation that download should explicitly waive your right to a refund. However, I'm not entirely convinced that Frontier are compliant with the legislation themselves (there's supposed to be a big warning and checkbox to say you've understood before you download). But anyway, should the bank find against the OP there really ought to be a charge for the spurious claim, in the same way that the seller loses out if found in favour of the OP.

 

[andyraptor]

THIS!

There is nothing in the game to help you understand what is going on, what you can achieve, what the game mechanics are, or how to do anything. The only way to find out HOW to play is to visit the Forums. If you were unaware of the Forums what how long would you try to play the game?

To be very honest ...
Iwas a little lost at the beginning... then I spotted the words "Forums" .. "Tutorials" ..... & "Manual" staring back at me from the game launcher

not complete by any means but gave me the steer to look in the right direction

 

[ToniB]

i smell a troll. sorry

 

[HarlequiNQB]

To be very honest ...
Iwas a little lost at the beginning... then I spotted the words "Forums" .. "Tutorials" ..... & "Manual" staring back at me from the game launcher

not complete by any means but gave me the steer to look in the right direction

Pretty much. I'd already bought the game and run the launcher when I realized the download was going to take a while. What should I do while I wait? Well, I could read the manual that's linked right there. So I did. Doesn't cover everything, but I didn't want to slow the download by watching videos. After that and a brief spin through the takeoff and landing tutorials and I was set. The only mission I had issues with was the assassination. Green and in a Sidewinder I had no chance of course - feel the mission description for that one should be more explicit, otherwise, no problem.

I'm sorry the OP is not enjoying the game, but more disappointed still to see he is trying to discourage others, who might have none of his (her?) Issues, from buying it. There is a wealth of information about the game out there, people are more than capable of doing research into their purchase before laying down the money. Research it appears the OP didn't do.

As to their feelings about the quality of the game? Well, in the words of The Big Lebowski; "That's just like, your opinion man."

 

[Keeani]

If you are looking to buy this game I would like to dissuade you from doing so. Ill start by sharing my experience as a new player to the masses. So I begin the game in a system with no idea what to do or where to go. The quests are not achievable nor are they worth doing imo. There is no communication any where in the galaxy and in my time playing Ive met one person. The cockpit view gets suffocating at times and there is no external view. I have yet to get a good look at my ships. The super cruise system takes way to long to get something done and begins to to be more a hassle than immersion. I disagree with the fact that they promote solo play in a multiplier environment. The way the game is set up now is pretty boring if you ask me. There is no large scale warfare or mining ships needed to be protected. If you are looking for a game where you can have huge fleets and dictate space or pirate players entering a simple system then this is not it. Not worth 20 bucks if you ask me. Dont get me wrong thought the game has potential but will the game reach that potential before star citizen? Doubtable.

I couldn't agree with you more. The game is tedious to play and bland. Its empty and awkward.

 

[Scimiter]

I couldn't agree with you more. The game is tedious to play and bland. Its empty and awkward.

You may think so, but thousands of players including myself would disagree.

 

[noodle]

Well while I do appreciate all of the suggestions and points brought up in the thread I also do not know how I am to enjoy a game that has nothing appealing to me. With that said I have contacted Frontier about a refund being as nice as possible. Seeing as they told me they could not refund me I have opened a dispute. I was under the impression the game was going to be more multiplayer than it is in its current state. Thanks again though for the effort to keep it civil. I wish I had the chance to get more involved with the community before now due to the fact It might have made my purchase worth it. Sadly I did not.

This is why we read reviews before buying games.

 

[Keeani]

This is why we read reviews before buying games.

Unfortunately reviews cant show the product completely.

I feel like I was swindled and will also open a dispute.

 

[Gracey Field]

Obviously the OP is entitled to their own opinion. Personally I have no beef with the game. Yes I am constantly grinding away at trading or bounty hunting to try and earn a buck, that saying if I could afford an anaconda after a day or to I'd be bored after a week, a month tops. I have XBox games that are sat in their boxes after a month of playing cause their is nothing left to do. I love the open play or no one telling me I have to do something. If I fancy a bit of BH one night then off I go.

I will say it's not multi player friendly, I try talking to other Cmdrs but mostly no reply but then again the panel means I have probably ignored a few chat requests also. Never mind it's a work in progress.

 

[noodle]

Unfortunately reviews cant show the product completely.

I feel like I was swindled and will also open a dispute.

I've never played a game where I hadn't been able to get a fair idea of what to expect from a review. If you don't research a game properly, you've got no right to complain after purchasing it. How, exactly, do you feel you have been "swindled"?

 

[Keeani]

I've never played a game where I hadn't been able to get a fair idea of what to expect from a review. If you don't research a game properly, you've got no right to complain after purchasing it. How, exactly, do you feel you have been "swindled"?

You are a funny man. First of all, "fair idea", yes exactly. A fair idea. You have some idea. You don't know what you are getting, until you get it. You just maybe have a fair idea.
Second, I have the right to complain, period. If we ignore the type of product this is, you may have heard of such a thing as consumer protection , no? Consumers arent obliged to do researches in order to complain about a product. Thats would be crazy.

I feel like I been swindled by this half finished product, that is way below games 10 years old now. Its certainly not as anything I would have wanted. And if this company had any self respect, it would let the disappointed users leave with their money and not cause further bad feelings.

 

[cmdr lowest]

You do realise that there is an external view?
Conflict zones are fairly large scale warfare?
RES's hold plenty of mining ships being poached by pirates?
The while point is no-one tells you what to do or where to go?

I'm sorry you can't achieve the simple objectives of the missions, you do not have the patience to spend a couple of minute travelling between object millions of miles apart, can't do some thing other people seem to have no trouble with and disagree with a major plus point of the game.

It sounds like the game is not for you. Wait 18 months and be prepared to be disappointed that Star Citizen is not exactly what you wanted either.

And I sincerely doubt Star Citizen will be out in 18 months. I downloaded the free week trial and all it felt like to me was a glorified FPS with no depth. They have years of development still to go.

 

[Dommarraa]

Dude, if you have a dispute, tell frontier, I see no reason for you to be spouting off here. We don't care

 

[Yaffle]

Closing, rule 11.