General / Off-Topic The Hollywood Elite Movie

I'm waiting to win a $300 million lottery, purchase the film rights to 'The Dark Wheel' then go to Hollywood, CA and Pinewood Studios in the U.K. and Atlanta, GA. The original 1984 novella by Robert Holdstock is the appropriate first Elite movie to start the film franchise. But let's get it right unlike 'Star Trek: The Motion Picture' (1979) directed by Robert Wise where the star was showing off the Enterprise 12 years later for the TV fans. The story was poorly written with too much time dedicated to visuals. A sexually enticing bald woman won't hold the audience attention for 40 minutes. 'Star Trek II: the Wrath of Kahn' (1982) directed by Nicholas Meyer is the type of rare chemistry that we need but not always easy to find.

'Star Trek' (2009) directed by J.J. Abrams was a reset of the Star Trek universe but he thew away the timeline destroying the planet Vulcan. Not good. The following movies didn't do so well. Josh Whedon would be considered to produce and direct but he too often likes to kill off main characters. Given that the cast of 'Firefly' including the main character Nathan Fillion playing Malcolm Reynolds made the show believable who would you cast for the part of:

Director: ???

Writers: ???

Effects, Makeup and Costumes: My first choices are Industrial Light and Magic, Michael Westmore, Michael Kaplan.

Jason Ryder: Killed (1st 10 minutes cameo appearance) during the destruction of his ship by a pirate.

Alex Ryder: Son of Jason Ryder. Survived the destruction using a RemLock and dedicated to seeking revenge.

Rafe Zetter: A friend of Jason Ryder's. Also a senior member of the Dark Wheel with a few clues in act one.

Elyssia Fields: Rafe paired her with Alex because she is an excellent pilot. The writers will probably add a love tension to sell movie tickets.

Patrick McGreavy: A shady trader and associate of Rafe Zetter. Adds more clues to what is going on in act two.

The Pirate: Alex confronts in the climax. Needs a bigger part as a great movie needs a really great believable bad guy.

Cmdr Jameson: Not in the novella but is in the starting point of all the Elite game players before Elite Dangerous. We will need some great writers to come up with a cameo appearance in the movie for the fans.

Supporting players: For comic relief we'll some need some dry humor as in John Cleese because it is a U.K. game and American humor for bigger movie ticket sales. Also interesting characters at the stations to throw a twist into the plot keeping the audience immersed in the story. Develop the main characters quickly so that the audience can relate but keep it moving to the next scene. Long conversations to make a point per a director trying to make statement about the human condition as they see it turns off the audience if they don't agree with it. Save that for other movies. We're not doing Shakespeare here. We are entertaining keeping the audience on the edge of their seats wondering what comes next while they are eating popcorn.

Cameos: As in an Alfred Hitchcock movie often where he was on screen without lines David Braben and possibly Ian Bell if he agrees would complete this great movie.

Supporting sales: Posters, key chains, pins and a plastic 1:48 scale Cobra Mk III by Revell/Monogram with retractable landing gear.

Producers: $300 million is a ballpark to get other movie investors involved in the project. Might only need $100 million to start while me winning the lottery is not the best solution. Maybe someone who already has a starting investment could benefit from my suggestions with great financial talent to bring others onboard.

I know this game starting in 1984 on Commodore 64 playing with friends talking on the telephone to each other like we were in a wing long before the Internet we know today was ever invented. Add in a website I still keep online loving the game for others looking for the history. Living in Los Angeles for 26 years, knowing the talent (had dinner with a few) and how the business works probably the best technical adviser a movie company could ever have as well as others I know in the early years to get an expensive movie to be a success. But you decide.

Regards

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( If I'd won 300 million $, I'd buy shares of Fdev.pl and try to influence more priority dev on ED, lol. )

Hey, I like ST:TMP often more than TWOK. Doug Trumbell and crew's work on the Enterprise refit is still a benchmark in visual effects aethetics and it's type and 2001 style will probably never be seen again in movies. Trumbell had special painting of the "panels" of the hull in pearlescent reflection with special lighting which was hacked off in TWOK production while they shamelessly still re-used clips from the TMP drydock scenes. And the plots of Kirk's obsession to get back the Enterprise, Spock's mindtrip and acceptance of his human half, etc. weren't that bad themes, in fact the rest of the movies worked off of those resolved TMP themes to some extent. Plus TMP showed some of the best leaving drydock, flying by Jupiter at sublight/impulse, and going to warp scenes. imo, ED's space travel & waltzing, evokes more of the TMP feel, production design, and vice versa.

[video=youtube;YG3GSZUwvSU]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YG3GSZUwvSU[/video]

That said, Dark Wheel I'd agree is a good entry for the "motion picture" of the Elite Franchise. If you're going for 300 million budget, some ideas:

Cmdr Jameson cameo - Scott Bakula
Android or hologram - Ana De Armas

Music - same guy who did ED's soundtrack plus composer of additional piano music (mostly heard on terrain)
Director - Christopher Nolan, Denis Villenueve, or Peter Jackson.
Cinematography - Roger Deakins
Visual Efx - Dneg
 
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I think I've come up with the PERFECT cast and crew that would make The Dark Wheel movie a commercial and critical success! :D

Director: George Lucas
Writer: George Lucas

Jason Ryder: Liam Neeson
Alex Ryder: Hayden Christensen
Rafe Zetter: Ahmed Best
Elyssia Fields: Natalie Portman
Patrick McGreavy: Jake Lloyd
The Pirate: Ian McDiarmid

[haha]
 
Written by Dave Evers.
Directed by Werner Herzog.

My role to be played by Steve Buscemi's teeth.

[video=youtube_share;EvWh6PMi9Ek]https://youtu.be/EvWh6PMi9Ek[/video]

[video=youtube_share;iMS4rqqiN20]https://youtu.be/iMS4rqqiN20[/video]
 
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They shouldn't make an expensive Hollywood movie yet, because Elite needs to be more popular first. They should start with a CGI series like Star Wars The Clone Wars on Netflix.

This is the 10000th thread about an Elite movie. Please sticky and merge.
 
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I think I've come up with the PERFECT cast and crew that would make The Dark Wheel movie a commercial and critical success! :D

Director: George Lucas
Writer: George Lucas

Jason Ryder: Liam Neeson
Alex Ryder: Hayden Christensen
Rafe Zetter: Ahmed Best
Elyssia Fields: Natalie Portman
Patrick McGreavy: Jake Lloyd
The Pirate: Ian McDiarmid

[haha]

I'm not so sure with George Lucas as writer/director. I want more input as Elite is different from Star Wars. While he is as old as I am we would be drinking a lot of Scotch in Marin County with him to come up the perfect screen script and the director to pull it off. Still I like your overall cast to start except Liam Neeson as the father. We need a known celebrity to kill off in the first ten minutes (think Steven Seagal in 'Executive Decision') then use Neeson in a more dramatic role per the character as say Patrick McGreavy who is all knowing in the second act but doesn't tell everything. Write some more dialog for him. Knowing actor's egos he would love that part for more acting jobs in the future.

I love Natalie Portman as Elyssia Fields. A little love tension per the writers and this movie is going to be a big hit with the audience. What bothers me is that we are discussing how to make a great movie and we are not getting paid for it. :)
 
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It would be technically possible to make the film using the Cobra engine and procedural generation.

What about Planet Coaster The Movie.
 
No!

Director: Alejandro Jodorowsky

Writers: William Shakespeare and Alejandro Jodorowsky

LOL. Alejandro is 89 with a lot of past controversy. Could he make it to the set? Also could be bad with the critics bringing them up reviewing the movie. As for William Shakespeare give me his agent's phone number and I'll make the call. Oh, sorry he isn't around either.
 
( If I'd won 300 million $, I'd buy shares of Fdev.pl and try to influence more priority dev on ED, lol. )

Hey, I like ST:TMP often more than TWOK. Doug Trumbell and crew's work on the Enterprise refit is still a benchmark in visual effects aethetics and it's type and 2001 style will probably never be seen again in movies. Trumbell had special painting of the "panels" of the hull in pearlescent reflection with special lighting which was hacked off in TWOK production while they shamelessly still re-used clips from the TMP drydock scenes. And the plots of Kirk's obsession to get back the Enterprise, Spock's mindtrip and acceptance of his human half, etc. weren't that bad themes, in fact the rest of the movies worked off of those resolved TMP themes to some extent. Plus TMP showed some of the best leaving drydock, flying by Jupiter at sublight/impulse, and going to warp scenes. imo, ED's space travel & waltzing, evokes more of the TMP feel, production design, and vice versa.

That said, Dark Wheel I'd agree is a good entry for the "motion picture" of the Elite Franchise. If you're going for 300 million budget, some ideas:

Cmdr Jameson cameo - Scott Bakula
Android or hologram - Ana De Armas

Music - same guy who did ED's soundtrack plus composer of additional piano music (mostly heard on terrain)
Director - Christopher Nolan, Denis Villenueve, or Peter Jackson.
Cinematography - Roger Deakins
Visual Efx - Dneg

Good points on ST:TMP as I also love Doug Trumbell who was a master at special effects long before computers started taking over and even then CGI took years to come up to what he put on flim. It was that VERY long time consuming entrance into the V'Ger ship that failed a basic rule of movie making to keep the plot moving and the audience interested.

Thanks for the great inputs. Yes, we need a Cmdr Jameson Cameo. Good point!
 
More suggestions for the talent...

For the father killed KRYLITE suggested Scott Bakula. I like this. He brings a world known sci-fi acting career, is older now and looks the part, and the writers can add depth to his part to make it totally believable on-screen to get the audience emotionally reacting and hating the bad guy out of the gate. You decide.

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Yes, we need a Cmdr Jameson Cameo. He is not in the novella but is the computer player name used in the Elite games until we could change it in ED. Sort of like an Alfred Hitchcock walk on in all his movies with a lot more depth. This cameo has to represent all the players. I like Aaron Eckhart but maybe more as Jason Ryder. He is a great on-screen presence while his agent didn't could have picked better projects for him.

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I just bought my Powerball lottery ticket in the USA. Up to 455 million. All we have to do now is win! :)

Regards
 
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