The latest proof (if any is needed) that Devo is dumb...How'd I die?

[Morbad]

What I did instead was exit the cold cloud, boosted away in a random direction about 20 klicks or so and tucked myself into a collection of 'roids and made like a rock, shutting down all nonessential systems to keep the signature low.

Could easily have run out of fuel, but 20km is not far and I would not be surprised if an NPC wandered over saw you had cargo, and blew your CMDR's ship away when it didn't promptly drop cargo.

And never ever ever (!) afk.

I go afk all the time, I just make sure my CMDR's ship is not stationary unless it's docked. Speed is life.

 

[NorthernDevo]

Could easily have run out of fuel, but 20km is not far and I would not be surprised if an NPC wandered over saw you had cargo, and blew your CMDR's ship away when it didn't promptly drop cargo.

...Except for the fact that after the first pirate that inevitably spawns on arrival, NPC's never appear while mining in the rings. I was 20km from my last spent asteroid; many hundreds from my arrival point.
At any rate the logs clearly shows I ran out of fuel.
Thanks.

 

[Morbad]

...Except for the fact that after the first pirate that inevitably spawns on arrival, NPC's never appear while mining in the rings. I was 20km from my last spent asteroid; many hundreds from my arrival point.

Yeah, I was thinking of a RES.

 

[CLG 6]

I ask more questions than provide answers but when I need to take a break from mining I just log out. I also mine with an anaconda so a pirate would have to be flying more than a standard ship to mess with me and survive the encounter.

 

[Soron Silin]

Bad luck with the ship. Those void opals don't come cheap.

Red Rose is good tea, no doubt, and was once my go to everyday tea, but have you tried tetleys british blend?
About the same cost and imo a better cup.
If you are in the UK i suppose it would just be called tetleys, the type that comes in a round bag with no string.

Tea with a string is bourgeois. I find Tetley's a little harsh, although it's a tea with muscle and some like that. I'm a PG Tips man myself, although you probably can't get it.

I love tetley's Earl Grey

Here in the UK there's only one sort of tea and almost nobody who drinks it knows what it is. (It's Assam.) There's many brands, with different strengths and so forth, but it's all the same type. It's just tea. Named stuff is also bourgeois.

Earl Grey is good on occasion, as is Darjeling, although I have to be in the mood. Those are an event; "tea" (Assam) is just a drink.

Tea is drunk with milk, or sometimes with nothing, never, ever with lemon. In my youth it was almost invariably with two teaspoons of sugar although these days it's more common to drink it without. Because we drink it with milk, it is very strong compared to a blend designed to be taken black. On the other hand a green (China) tea is drunk black and is made with just a sprinkling of tea leaves, rather than a bag-full.

 

[NorthernDevo]

Bad luck with the ship. Those void opals don't come cheap.


Tea with a string is bourgeois. I find Tetley's a little harsh, although it's a tea with muscle and some like that. I'm a PG Tips man myself, although you probably can't get it.

Here in the UK there's only one sort of tea and almost nobody who drinks it knows what it is. (It's Assam.) There's many brands, with different strengths and so forth, but it's all the same type. It's just tea. Named stuff is also bourgeois.

Earl Grey is good on occasion, as is Darjeling, although I have to be in the mood. Those are an event; "tea" (Assam) is just a drink.

Tea is drunk with milk, or sometimes with nothing, never, ever with lemon. In my youth it was almost invariably with two teaspoons of sugar although these days it's more common to drink it without. Because we drink it with milk, it is very strong compared to a blend designed to be taken black. On the other hand a green (China) tea is drunk black and is made with just a sprinkling of tea leaves, rather than a bag-full.

I absolutely adore PG Tips myself; it's an excellent blend. I personally prefer Red Rose for the depth of taste, and for the fond nostalgia of my childhood, when boxes of tea came with little collectible ceramic figurines.

The best daily tea I had I can't find here; it was importado brought in privately by an Eritrean convenience store owner in Edmonton. Lovely stuff; orange pekoe from Assam, India. I've been looking for it ever since I moved home.

 

[aRJay]

If it didnt say "Killied by X" then you probably ran out of fuel.
You should probably have
a) parked inside your last exploded roid, you would be so cold a Pirate would not have detected you
b) turned off everthing except life support, would would be colder and your fuel last longer
c) used a shopping list.

c) used internet shopping

 

[NorthernDevo]

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Excellent caveat; well-written and thorough. A tad overdone perhaps, but given some of the Commanders on these Forums, quite understandable. 2 points taken off for running out of letters before adding the actual warning. Here - I'll complete it for you.

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[NorthernDevo]

So, I don't get it. If you run out of fuel, you explode?

I would have expected running out of fuel would just leave you "out of fuel" and having to call the fuel rats.

Why don't you explode when you jump too far and exit jump on an empty tank. Then you call the fuel rats.

Glad my car does not explode when I run out of fuel. I can't afford the rebuy.

What happens is that when you run out of fuel, the onboard APU stops running and providing electrical power for the ship's systems. The batteries and various capacitors drain, and your life support system eventually shuts down. When that dies, you die. The ship doesn't explode per se; you're just dead and returned to the nearest station that supports your ship type.
While I've never needed the Fuel Rats, I can imagine the protocol: Given that once your fuel is totally out you've got a maximum of (I think) 24 minutes on an A-rated LSS, when you contact the Rats, you exit the game, monitor progress via their chat and come back online when the Rat arrives. I'm just guessing though; I've never needed them.

 

[NorthernDevo]

I don't doubt what you say, but there have been heroic rescues by the fuel rats with one guy stuck for "months" way out somewhere and they had to use relay ships to get to him.

The Elite Dangerous pilot stranded since last year has finally been rescued

He's escaped the void thanks to the Fuel Rats.

www.pcgamer.com

So, if he was out of fuel, how come he survived for months?

You would need to be in the game to get rescued, hard to follow their progress if your not. But, as you say we have never been out of fuel and in need of rescue.

While I'm unfamiliar with the specifics, Deluvian probably logged off with his main ship. Unless he had an alt, he wouldn't be able to play while his tanks were dry. He'd have to wait while the Rats carried out their remarkable rescue - and I must say that was quite remarkable!

 

[777Driver]

So, if he was out of fuel, how come he survived for months?

You would need to be in the game to get rescued, hard to follow their progress if your not. But, as you say we have never been out of fuel and in need of rescue.

Standard procedure with fuel rats is to log off until the Cmdr reaches you. If you stay online with all non-essential systems shut down, you can get around a 0.2T per hour fuel burn (depending on your setup)

Small ships have around 0.6T in the secondary tank (thin line) larger ships from memory go up to around 1.5T.. Either way, not a lot to last, even when just running life support.

 

[MickyG1982]

I don't doubt what you say, but there have been heroic rescues by the fuel rats with one guy stuck for "months" way out somewhere and they had to use relay ships to get to him.

The Elite Dangerous pilot stranded since last year has finally been rescued

He's escaped the void thanks to the Fuel Rats.

www.pcgamer.com

So, if he was out of fuel, how come he survived for months?

You would need to be in the game to get rescued, hard to follow their progress if your not. But, as you say we have never been out of fuel and in need of rescue.

He wasn't logged into the game - until the time of rescue maybe had a seperate account to play on if he had that itch. stayed in contact with the rats via email or skype... any number of out of game comms...

 

[Rick6549]

You wouldn't have this peoblem if you flew the Beluga. It has a 128 ton fuel tank.

 

[NorthernDevo]

Since VO mining only requires 2 Hardpoints, I have to wonder why you're worried about NPC pirates in an Anaconda? Just exit to main menu and waste the pirate upon return.

Oh, not even remotely worried; I just wasn't interested in wasting a pirate or few for little to no gain - I find combat against hopeless opponents to be tedious. I like staying immersed and have shut down in rings many times for sleep, eating, watching a movie, etc. It wasn't anything new.

 

[Soron Silin]

Maybe view Main Menu as leaving your seat and going to your cabin.

 

[CMDR GRAEME COWELL]

I may have maybe cut in line at a station, npc behind me slams into the back of my Mamba which gets jambed up in the mail slot (I knew those wingtip fins were a bad idea) Couldn't go in because I was all crossed up, couldn't go out because 'Ole Bumpy Rams-a-lot' behind me was still trying to get in at full power. Cue the loitering sirens, here mate have a free explosion on us... oh yeah and a fine for loitering for good measure. So far I have attacked EVERY npc unlucky enough to have the same name as the guy who shunted me just on the off chance it's him

The falling asleep and waking up wondering why the 'leave station' timer is down to 5 seconds is also one i have to put my hand up for.

 

[Garand1987]

Oof. If I go AFK while mining I keep it sitting inside the ice field of the popped asteroid. You have 0% heat while inside. Makes seeing you by NPC’s pretty much a non issue and if you’ve got the right skin on your ship players will find it tough to visually identify a ship as well.

 

[Lunchmoney]

Another necro! At least this one is only a 4 month old thread.

 

[Bigmaec]

I rate this necro suboptimal