Ships the new "universal multy" limpet controller range is fake

Just tested in-game the REAL range - is about 1.600 m , instead of trumpeted "9.100 m " !
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Thanks, that range must be specific to the prospector function then. I think we need more stats listed for the various activity types.
Yes.
I can't believe that collector can have a lifetime - infinite. Once released and minig until evening :)
 
Just tested in-game the REAL range - is about 1.600 m , instead of trumpeted "9.100 m " !
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Nothing is fake.
But seriously, did you ever used any limpets before?

That's a genuine question and i'm asking it because they didnt invented any new limpets.
They created a controller that can fire any of the currently existing limpets types.

So they could not fit in a single screen all the parameters for all limpet types
And all the parameters listed there are the BEST parameters from all controllers types
  • maximum speed 500m/s is the speed for hatch breaker
  • limpet lifetime (infinite) is the kifetime for prospectors (they dont expire, they just get replaced with a new one) other limpets have their own lifetime (collectors have like )
  • Range 9100 is, again, for prospectors - they have 9km range for a size 5A
  • multi target speed 60m/s is for normal collectors (the ones fired without a target)
  • minimum and maximum cargor is again a parameter for hatch breaker - how much cargo they will drop from their targets
  • hacking time is the parameter for Recon limpets
  • fuel transfer capacity is for fuel limpets.

And regarding tthe complaint they're so heavy...
Well they are, but they also can control 8 limpets. EIGHT.
While a size 3 can launch 4 collectors.

Edit: one note regarding the parameters:
  • size 7 ULC has the parameters from size 5, same rate controllers - for example, 7A ULC prospector has 9100 range, same for 5A prospector
  • size 3 MLC seems to have the parameters from size 1, same rate controllers
 
Nothing is fake.
But seriously, did you ever used any limpets before?

That's a genuine question and i'm asking it because they didnt invented any new limpets.
They created a controller that can fire any of the currently existing limpets types.

So they could not fit in a single screen all the parameters for all limpet types
And all the parameters listed there are the BEST parameters from all controllers types
  • maximum speed 500m/s is the speed for hatch breaker
  • limpet lifetime (infinite) is the kifetime for prospectors (they dont expire, they just get replaced with a new one) other limpets have their own lifetime (collectors have like )
  • Range 9100 is, again, for prospectors - they have 9km range for a size 5A
  • multi target speed 60m/s is for normal collectors (the ones fired without a target)
  • minimum and maximum cargor is again a parameter for hatch breaker - how much cargo they will drop from their targets
  • hacking time is the parameter for Recon limpets
  • fuel transfer capacity is for fuel limpets.

And regarding tthe complaint they're so heavy...
Well they are, but they also can control 8 limpets. EIGHT.
While a size 3 can launch 4 collectors.

Edit: one note regarding the parameters:
  • size 7 ULC has the parameters from size 5, same rate controllers - for example, 7A ULC prospector has 9100 range, same for 5A prospector
  • size 3 MLC seems to have the parameters from size 1, same rate controllers
Do not know how the characteristics, I personally in the game did not understand what these controllers include, just a list.
Bought, installed, and only then was able to see it in the battle groups.
 
Do not know how the characteristics, I personally in the game did not understand what these controllers include, just a list.
Bought, installed, and only then was able to see it in the battle groups.

You can compare them directly
size 3 MLC get the characteristics from the size 1, equivalent rated single controllers
For example:
  • 3C Mining MLC gets the caracteristics from 1C Prospectors and 1C Collectors
  • 7A ULC gets the characteristics from size 5A single controllers (if any, for example, Research limpet is size 1E only)
Edit:
this should help too
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You can compare them directly
size 3 MLC get the characteristics from the size 1, equivalent rated single controllers
For example:
  • 3C Mining MLC gets the caracteristics from 1C Prospectors and 1C Collectors
  • 7A ULC gets the characteristics from size 5A single controllers (if any, for example, Research limpet is size 1E only)
Edit:
this should help too
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Yes, I know about it because I read the forum. But what about the people who just play? I just wrote that this information is not in the game. Well, or I did not find ...
 
Yes, I know about it because I read the forum. But what about the people who just play? I just wrote that this information is not in the game. Well, or I did not find ...

IIRC this issue was raised to Sally - indeed, the controllers should offer more info.

However, i dont really see how ED can be "just played" without forums or inara or eddb or coriolis.
I'm not saying that is good, but that's just how it is.
 
In fact, this release was a full mess - CTD.s, the limpets are nothing new, just copy/paste existing limpets AND the in-game description just take the TOP characteristic from ALL type of limpets, and they mix them faking a "new" controller to look like a "marvel", without ever making a mention to the fact they are JUST copy/paste.
If I can understand, the mess they did with the silly"in-game" description ( 7A7A !!! ) because they do not have space to write all the characteristics for all limpets ( but they could reformulate that in an intelligent manner, avoiding the confusion they inducted ! ) - what I do not understand -

WHY the release notes, where they wrote hundreds of line of "detailed explications" - why there is no mention, in detail, telling us those are just simple copy/paste of the old controllers, and the limpets retain the characteristics associated to the old controllers !
 
Nothing is fake.
But seriously, did you ever used any limpets before?

That's a genuine question and i'm asking it because they didnt invented any new limpets.
They created a controller that can fire any of the currently existing limpets types.

So they could not fit in a single screen all the parameters for all limpet types
And all the parameters listed there are the BEST parameters from all controllers types
  • maximum speed 500m/s is the speed for hatch breaker
  • limpet lifetime (infinite) is the kifetime for prospectors (they dont expire, they just get replaced with a new one) other limpets have their own lifetime (collectors have like )
  • Range 9100 is, again, for prospectors - they have 9km range for a size 5A
  • multi target speed 60m/s is for normal collectors (the ones fired without a target)
  • minimum and maximum cargor is again a parameter for hatch breaker - how much cargo they will drop from their targets
  • hacking time is the parameter for Recon limpets
  • fuel transfer capacity is for fuel limpets.

And regarding tthe complaint they're so heavy...
Well they are, but they also can control 8 limpets. EIGHT.
While a size 3 can launch 4 collectors.

Edit: one note regarding the parameters:
  • size 7 ULC has the parameters from size 5, same rate controllers - for example, 7A ULC prospector has 9100 range, same for 5A prospector
  • size 3 MLC seems to have the parameters from size 1, same rate controllers
you are wrong here:
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  • "size 7 ULC has the parameters from size 5, same rate controllers - for example, 7A ULC prospector has 9100 range, same for 5A prospector" you wrote
NOP - a size 7A7A has DIFFERENT parameters from size 5A and from 7A - 5A works with 3, regular size 7A works with 4 limpets, the Univ Multi works with 8 ! ( DOUBLE).
Also, regular size 7A has a 2100m range, the "new" 7A7A has a REDUCED range of only 1600m !
( do you ever used a 7A collector limpet before ? lol ! )

But to balance the things, they added weight. A lot of it.

And when I said was FAKE is because . in case you didn't notice ! - in the release notes, they do not even bother to write / describe what you just have done !
They just put there a couple of lines making us to believe is something "new" with wonder characteristics - when in fact, are the OLD limpets !
Also, you can field ONLY ONE MODULE, unlike "old" ones - those you can fit as much you like, if you have slots.

Add to all this mess the new bugs they introduced - CTD when you go to "stored" modules, CTD when you try to change the loadout, making this update an ugly mess.
 
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NOP - a size 7A7A has DIFFERENT parameters from size 5A and from 7A - 5A works with 3, regular size 7A works with 4 limpets, the Univ Multi works with 8 ! ( DOUBLE).

Well, i see the 4/8 limpets as a bonus to compensate for the fact that we can use a single MLC/ULC per ship
THE MLC/ULC are also heavier than the rest of controllers even tho they use lower grade limpets

Anyway, except the number of limpets fired, the other limpet characteristics seems to match the lower_size-same_grade formula

And when I said was FAKE is because . in case you didn't notice ! - in the release notes, they do not even bother to write / describe what you just have done !
They just put there a couple of lines making us to believe is something "new" with wonder characteristics - when in fact, are the OLD limpets !

I agree, there should have been more info - at least to let us know what functions each MLC has (Miner = Prospector + Collector; Operational = Collector + Recon + Hatch Breaker; etc)
But the description... they do like to let the player figure it by themselves.

... making us to believe is something "new" with wonder characteristics - when in fact, are the OLD limpets !

No, not really - they said they add multi limpet controllers.
That is controllers able to fire several types of limpets, not that they invented new limpets. 🤷‍♂️

Still, i'm a bit taken aback because of the missing 3A MLC
However the new MLC do add a certain value.
 
I use the 7a UMC in the Vette for fighting ( to be able to help those poor NPC ambushed by evil lord pirates 🤣) and other in my mining Annie - big ships do not bother much with weight and for the Vette make almost no difference, maybe is even better - buff to ramming !

The class III is good for medium ships like Krait, Cheffy, etc since you use a slot 3 and can deploy 4 limpets instead of only 2...
Still, I think a class V was more necessary than a lass VII - class 7 is one of the best for shields or/and cargo, and we are forced to give-up that in order to field the UMC...

Also, they NEVER mention a very important "detail" - in in-game description or in release notes - a couple words they didn't bother to write : you only can field ONE module and JUST ONE.
Lazy job, to conclude.
 
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