The repair of Obsidian Orbital and The Oracle etc - I might actually bust a gut laughing?

NeilF

NeilF
Imagine after many more weeks/months Obsidian Orbital and/or The Oracle finally get repaired, and then, on the following Thursday tick, the invisible Thargoids turn up and "damages" them again :) So back to square one, with X trillion tons of Y required again.

I think I might actually damage myself laughing TBH!

But why wouldn't this happen? How do we know that won't happen? What can we do to prevent it?

Or do we simply know as there's no real mechanics/gameplay involved behind this, that we can simply trust FD not to click on those locations again?
 
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Vasious

Vasious
If the Thargoid attacks are to reclaim the artefacts held in the Aegis Labs once located at those stations then if the labs themselves are not rebuild and stocked full of Thargoid sensors probes links resins bological samples etc, would they have reason to attack again.

I am sure the Attacks are not aimed at the station, rather just the side effect of the Flower ships coming to get their stuff and cracking open the station was their way of doing it.
 

n34257

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Vasious said:
If the Thargoid attacks are to reclaim the artefacts held in the Aegis Labs once located at those stations then if the labs themselves are not rebuild and stocked full of Thargoid sensors probes links resins bological samples etc, would they have reason to attack again.

I am sure the Attacks are not aimed at the station, rather just the side effect of the Flower ships coming to get their stuff and cracking open the station was their way of doing it.
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Consider this - when the stations are repaired, would their controlling factions reject Aegis and refuse to host their activities, in order to keep themselves safe? Could be an interesting political plotline there.

That wouldn't matter so much in the case of a lot of the stations, but Obsidian Orbital would be a significant loss to Aegis and may even act as a lightning rod for other stations to do the same.
 

JohnRoberts

JohnRoberts
The Thargoids attacked only because there is an Aegis Lab there. I assume at this point in time, and Aegis Lab on a station is about as welcome as a turd in a swimming pool.
 

MadDogMurdock

MadDogMurdock
Well, there's two more ticks before the Thargoids run out of targets from the Aegis Lab list.

Right on cue for the release of 3.0 and the next phase of operations.
 

777Driver

777Driver
The attacks shut down the Aegis labs, job done. It wouldn't make sense to attack those stations again, perhaps destroy them outright. We'll see what happens once all labs have been shut down, those attacks were a warning, I doubt we'll see Aegis returning to any repaired ports.
 

Brrokk

Brrokk
Looking for things to complain about? If the Thargoids never truly damaged anything they would be ridiculed. If they damaged stations and we had no way to get repairs wouldn't that be bad? So now, they damage stations, we can repair but they might do it again, and this is somehow bad too?

The only issue I have with the whole process is that the repairs are too difficult: more deliveries are needed than for constructing an entirely new station in a CG. So why not scrap and rebuild the stations? I suspect a narrative requirement which is going to make the Pleiades "Thargoid territory". I'm enjoying the story so far.
 

Bigmaec

Bigmaec
As one of the guys doing a lot of repair work at The Oracle and a lot of coordination for that, I wouldn't be happy.
If The Oracle gets shot down again with the next tick, that would surely be the end of the repair operation.
Honestly I would be very mad.
We would all riot. Go sealclubbing in Eravate or something like that. With our unarmed traders ;)

But that (it getting shot up again) is a possible outcome and we are all curious to see what happens if we finish The Oracle.
That's actually one of the reasons to organize, just to get one starport back online asap. To see if it makes sense at all repairing another one.
 
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CMDR Zadian Lichtfrost

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NeilF said:
Imagine after many more weeks/months Obsidian Orbital and/or The Oracle finally get repaired, and then, on the following Thursday tick, the invisible Thargoids turn up and "damages" them again …
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It would give us more information about what the Thargoids do. It might prevent an attack on a station in the bubble or closer to the bubble. It might result in the Thargoids having to adapt to the new situation.

Doesn't matter if the Thargoids attack or don't attack a repaired stations, it will be a success no matter what happens.
 

Crazy Joe

Crazy Joe
I guess that after the rebuild the stations will be armed with anti-Thargoid weaponry to give them a bigger chance of survival. Or maybe some Thargoid specific ATR units? Advanced Thargoid Response units? They wouldn't even need to change the acronym!
 
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Deleted member 38366

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In 10 years from now, we'll be laughing our rears off while sharing drinks at a Bar with Thargoids.

They'll have funny stories to tell how it all began.
The first Thargoid Docking Computer, reverse-engineered from salvaged Human Technology and originally believed to be a functional Manifest Scanner.
Followed by the scan attempts at Human Stations looking for stolen Thargoid Technology.

Hilarity ensued and everything else is history :D
 

Stealthie

Stealthie
NeilF said:
Imagine after many more weeks/months Obsidian Orbital and/or The Oracle finally get repaired, and then, on the following Thursday tick, the invisible Thargoids turn up and "damages" them again :) So back to square one, with X trillion tons of Y required again.

I think I might actually damage myself laughing TBH!

But why wouldn't this happen? How do we know that won't happen? What can we do to prevent it?

Or do we simply know as there's no real mechanics/gameplay involved behind this, that we can simply trust FD not to click on those locations again?
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First thing I said when the repair campaigns started was "How do we know they're not going to be hit again?"

I mean, if FDev have the 'goids targeting stations for strategic reasons, getting them operational again means there is a strategic reason to attack them again.

You could probably spend days trying to 2nd-guess the MO here.
Perhaps the 'goids are advancing into the bubble and everything behind them is forgotten?
Perhaps FDev is using them to get rid of all sorts of things they aren't happy with in-game?
Perhaps the damaged stations are never intended to be repaired?

I don't want to sound like a sulky brat but if Obsidian Orbital gets repaired and then gets attacked the following week, I'm done with Thargoid stuff.

It's not just that I'll be upset at seeing my effort undone.
The thing that I'll be really annoyed by is that we've got these Thargoids sneaking in, like evil-santa, every Thursday and messing up our galaxy, and there's nothing we can do to prevent it.
That being the case, why bother?

Like I said several months ago, I want to SEE a 'goid ship flying around outside a station, just like the banner at the top of the page depicts.

I dunno.
Maybe FDev originally planned for the 'goids to attack "live" but when they discovered we could kill 'em fairly easily, they realised the only way the Thargoid campaign would ever progress would be if they could attack unopposed?
 

777Driver

777Driver
Crazy Joe said:
I guess that after the rebuild the stations will be armed with anti-Thargoid weaponry to give them a bigger chance of survival. Or maybe some Thargoid specific ATR units? Advanced Thargoid Response units? They wouldn't even need to change the acronym!
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This issue with stations (and capital class ships) is that they are unable to fit shutdown neutralisers, pretty much the whole back story as to why standard ships are the only ones capable of fighting back.

I really don't think attacking repaired stations is part of the story, and let's face it, this is just a drawn out story we are following. The majority of us predicted the Aegis attacks, all those cannon fodder stations popping up, my money is on selected systems in the bubble next, and eventually access to the Thargoid core systems, be it for diplomacy or all out war.
 

Phoenix_Dfire

Phoenix_Dfire
Originally, I thought that if we kept on repairing the stations, the thargoids would repeatedly hit them again and again but they would be too busy hitting the stations in the Pleiades than invade the bubble.

However, with hindsight, those totals are set too high for that to be a possibility, so I don't think that was the intention. We'll find out on 'Thargoid Thursday' if they've reached the bubble. (just in time for 3.0 I suspect!)
 

Stealthie

Stealthie
777Driver said:
I really don't think attacking repaired stations is part of the story, and let's face it, this is just a drawn out story we are following.
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See, I'm not sure about this.

As a developer, you're not going to spend time creating content which is "transient" - there for a year and then gone, never to be seen again.

I might be wrong but it seems like this malarkey with the 'goids has got to reach some state of equilibrium where they keep attacking and we keep fighting them off so that players who buy ED in 2019 or 2020 will still get pretty-much the same experience that we're getting now.

That's why the whole thing needs improving though.
You can't just have 'goids sneaking in while the servers are down and randomly mangling stations every Thursday on a permanent basis 'cos sooner or later people are just going to ignore it.

FDev need to come up with some kind of algorithm that will allow the 'goids to decide whether to attack or not, decide where to attack and decide how forceful the attack is.
And do it live.
That way, we can try and defend stations and, if successful, the 'goids will have to go away and lick their wounds for a few weeks.
 
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