The Schrödinger galaxy?

Gandalf06

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Hi All
Having been pottering about out in the black for a while, I have a question. When one drops into a previously undiscovered system, are the celestial bodies already there or are they generated at the moment of jumping in?
I guess what I'm asking is was the whole galaxy created in a FD "Big Bang" or do we create each solar system by discovering it?

Regards
G
 

Aura Lorell

Aura Lorell
Think of it as the compression/decompression paradigm. You have a random seed that is always the same, it's fed into the forge, "decompresses" the system and displays it, retrieves the tags if they exist, and once you leave it's "compressed" again back to a seed. It's completely deterministic but I suspect the client does the hard work of converting it to something visible.
 

Hell Razor5543

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Schrodinger got it wrong with his thought experiment about cats. He said there were two possible options (alive and dead), where there are actually three. The third option is that the cat is bloody furious, and opening the box will cause it it explode out of the box and violently attack the nearest person!

Mind you, according to Terry Pratchett there is ANOTHER option, in that the cat (aware of being in a situation that could kill it) somehow opens a dimensional portal, and is then found in the janitors' cupboard. Nobody can understand how the cat got there, but now this cat (and any offspring) have a new and unusual way of escaping. It also explains how cats are able to get into secure locations that should be impregnable.
 
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marx

marx
Hell Razor5543 said:
Schrodinger got it wrong with his thought experiment about cats.
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By the way, most everyone who has heard of Schrödinger's cat thought experiment has got it wrong. He meant to illustrate that he thought the Copenhagen interpretation of quantum mechanics was absurd, because how can a cat be alive and dead at the same time?
By doing this, he illustrated a long time before the internet how it can be hard to tell in writing whether a person is being sarcastic or not. He should have added a /sarcasm at the end.
 

Gandalf06

G
Ahh, but does the FD galaxy mimic the Real galaxy? I.e. It's not actually there until observed... ;)
 
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Sapyx

Sapyx
It's called a "seed" because, just like all the information needed to create an entire tree is present in encoded instructions within a tree seed, all the information needed to generate the nature and position of every object in a procedurally-generated system is there, in the seed, activated just by feeding that seed number through the stellar forge star system generator. Feed the same seed, and it generates the same star system, each and every time.

This allows for the creation of a truly vast universe without having to store a vast amount of data, either on remote servers or the local computer. Generating a universe this way does of course have its drawbacks:
- Such a universe can never be chaotically dynamic. It can be predictably dynamic - and the ED universe is; the seed generates what the star system would have looked like at "time = 0" (probably 1st January 3300) and then uses Kepler's laws of planetary motion to fast-forward that system map to the current game time. Thus, predictably dynamic. But it can't be chaotically dynamic - such as stars exploding, or planets crashing into each other leaving behind a remnant-planet and a debris cloud. From the stellar forge's perspective, every object it generates has always existed, and always will exist.
- Making changes to the galaxy proves very problematic. You can't simply change the seed, since that would either delete the entire galaxy as it is now known. Changes made to the stellar forge equations would change billions of planets, discovered and undiscovered, simultaneously. This is presumably why "bugs" such as the "Borg-cubes of stars" and the "glowing white giants" have not yet been fixed, since changing them without changing the seed or forge equations would be impossible.
 

Whitmann

Whitmann
marx said:
By the way, most everyone who has heard of Schrödinger's cat thought experiment has got it wrong. He meant to illustrate that he thought the Copenhagen interpretation of quantum mechanics was absurd, because how can a cat be alive and dead at the same time?
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It's like when people get the story of King (careful how you spell that) wrong when they claim he tried to stop the tide, when in fact the story is that he illustrated not even a king can halt the waves cos Nature.
 
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