The Thargoid War and the Ender's Game Paradox: A Choice We Must Face

As the final Thargoid Titan looms over Sol, the galaxy unites in one last desperate push to end the Thargoid War. But as its defenses crumble, a strange and unexpected message emerges—a signal that some interpret as a call for peace. For the first time, we’re confronted with a chilling possibility: have we misunderstood our enemy all along?

This moment feels eerily reminiscent of the climax of Ender's Game. In that story, Ender Wiggin unknowingly annihilates the Formic species, only to later discover that the war was a tragic misunderstanding. The Formics, a hive mind, had no concept of individuality. They saw humanity not as billions of sentient beings, but as a singular, faceless collective—like their own drones. Ender, wracked with guilt, laments that if he’d known, he would have made a different choice.

But here’s the twist: Ender didn’t have that choice in the heat of battle. We do.

The Thargoids have been our greatest threat, their invasions devastating systems and displacing millions. Yet now, at the edge of victory, we’re left to wonder: have we been fighting an enemy we never truly understood? Could their actions, like the Formics', stem from a fundamental misalignment of perception—alien communication misinterpreted as hostility?

This isn’t the first time Elite commanders have faced such a choice. In an earlier chapter of the franchise’s history, we were given the option to deploy the mycoid virus—a biological weapon that triggered what many saw as an act of genocide against the Thargoids. At the time, the choice was clear for most: survival at any cost. But decades later, we look back on that decision with discomfort, even shame. Did our predecessors understand the consequences of their actions? And if they had, would they have chosen differently?

Now, we stand at another pivotal moment. To press forward is to secure humanity’s survival—but at what moral cost? To stay our hand is to risk our safety in pursuit of understanding and coexistence.

We have the same choice again. The question is, are we better than our predecessors? Have we grown as a species—or will history judge us as it did Ender Wiggin?

So I ask you, commanders: if Ender could choose to do it all again, would he? And more importantly, should we?
 
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But if there are thargoids still killing people in pleaides then War is still going on.
To be fair, the nebula goids are still passive, only attacking if you're carrying something that belongs to them. Otherwise they just scan you and leave peacefully.
For the first time, we’re confronted with a chilling possibility: have we misunderstood our enemy all along?
This is not the first time, not even close. We've pretty much always known the thargoids were looking for something specific, and it wasn't us.
 
An interesting option we could have been given, is a way to honk a signal back at Cocijo. Try to establish communication by means of anything other than shooting it. Is there a way to signal the Titan and demand it leave? Because it would be extremely funny to deny everyone their FSDs, especially the 'I will pretend to love peace, but I love xenocide and swag even more' bros.
 
Until the thargoids either clear off or surrender I say we keep firing.
Heck I'd go on a diplomatic escort mission to talk peace with the bugs, but with gun ports open and all 6 advanced plasma chargers fully loaded.

But I remember who started this war... ripped out of witchspace and fired on without mercy, we gained a respite from them for a while, then they came back again, I'm sure they had the technical means to talk to us if they wanted but didn't and I was there at the Oracle on that night
And 1000's died, I remember making run after run with my Asp's cargo hold jammed with refugees hoping the bugs would not catch me.
They wanted a fight, and we've given them a fight and by god I wont rest until every last stinking thargoid is ejected out of our space.
Because every time I encounter a thargoid and open the gunports I shout
"REMEMBER THE ORACLE"

Bill
 
'I will pretend to love peace, but I love xenocide and swag even more'
I don't pretend to love peace
Certainly not Xenocide as I'll shoot anything that moves, and shoot anything that doesn't, just in case...

But yes, I love swag, particularly when it will save my alts some time!
 
Yeah, NOW. Had the implications for peace been made a week ago, with different community goals and rewards, maybe things would have looked different.
 
We use references to human reproduction when we really want to insult each-other; they might be flipping us the bird. They might be suing for peace. They might be saying "Happy Holidays from FDEV."

Other possible interpretations:
"We were just spawning."
"We have what we came for:" your missing friends will be used to breed a slave army, and we have fulfilled our quota. Mission complete.
"Have you seen these humans?" -- missing pet poster.
"Good game!"
"Attractive single species seeks compatible species for hybridization. Employed, doesn't smoke, loves children. No pets."
"See you in three generations, suckers"
"So long and thanks for all the captives."
"You wanna get out of here?"

We truly don't understand the Thargoids well enough to interpret a cryptic message. The message appeared after we eliminated 93% of their total titan vitality in our space, yet Cocijo has not withdrawn, and double-engineered FSDs are on the line. And not understanding them means we should not assume that an offer of peace and the destruction of Cocijo are mutually exclusive, nor even that an offer of peace might not be contingent upon the eighth titan's annihilation, even if we could be certain it was an offer of peace.
 
The Thargoids have been our greatest threat, their invasions devastating systems and displacing millions. Yet now, at the edge of victory, we’re left to wonder: have we been fighting an enemy we never truly understood? Could their actions, like the Formics', stem from a fundamental misalignment of perception—alien communication misinterpreted as hostility?
But it's not really that we're at the edge of victory with Sol/Earth being besieged.

Even if CMDRs made the choice you propose in the Elite universe that would just mean a fate worse than death for the thargoids of being experimented on, colonized, maybe enslaved by various corporations and superpowers.

Also because it's Elite, it's more likely that any successful communication with the thargoids would be censored by various shadowy entities rather than misinterpreted.

It might not be a wise choice to blow it up either way due to the proximity to earth, but it's also not really a choice when a vast majority contributes to and is incentivized towards blowing it up.
 
It might not be a wise choice to blow it up either way due to the proximity to earth, but it's also not really a choice when a vast majority contributes to and is incentivized towards blowing it up.
It being in Earth Orbit, and expected to go off with a nice, jolly, BOOM, is incentive enough to make several trips for me, if it destroys Earth in its death throes, all the better!
 
Until the thargoids either clear off or surrender I say we keep firing.
Heck I'd go on a diplomatic escort mission to talk peace with the bugs, but with gun ports open and all 6 advanced plasma chargers fully loaded.

But I remember who started this war... ripped out of witchspace and fired on without mercy, we gained a respite from them for a while, then they came back again, I'm sure they had the technical means to talk to us if they wanted but didn't and I was there at the Oracle on that night
And 1000's died, I remember making run after run with my Asp's cargo hold jammed with refugees hoping the bugs would not catch me.
They wanted a fight, and we've given them a fight and by god I wont rest until every last stinking thargoid is ejected out of our space.
Because every time I encounter a thargoid and open the gunports I shout
"REMEMBER THE ORACLE"

Bill
Which Oracle attack are you referring to? The one that came a few months after humanity declared war on the Thargoids, or the ones that came later?

Certainly a scary attack, but we had already been indiscriminately shooting at every Thargoid in sight for a few months by that point. The counterattack in comparison was quite a bit more targeted. You were able to ship those refugees because the Thargoids chose to disable the station and then leave, rather than destroy it outright.
 
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