The turreted guardian plasma charger. Is actually NOT a turret.

Vurrath

Vurrath
#%&^!#%^!#

just found that out a moment ago, and now i find this ... AFTER i had a problem.

What has been made / done, to make SURE people know that it'll behave differently to other turrets?
nothing.

asking for my money back.

and while i'm here ... why isn't there a gimballed version?
 

Vurrath

Vurrath
that's fine ... it just needs to be LABELLED differently, so you know what you're able to GET (or in this case NOT-get ) , from buying it.
if i'd just PAID anything for it ... i'd be making a complaint through my consumer-protection body where i live, and possibly going to my BANK and reversing the payment.
 

Sensei Jacksama

Sensei Jacksama
Vurrath said:
that's fine ... it just needs to be LABELLED differently, so you know what you're able to GET (or in this case NOT-get ) , from buying it.
if i'd just PAID anything for it ... i'd be making a complaint through my consumer-protection body where i live, and possibly going to my BANK and reversing the payment.
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Well I bought a couple of the engineered shard cannons thinking it had the long range effect.... you know... like it says in the description? It doesnt. It's not like guardian weapon blueprints can only be found a thousand light years outside the bubble or anything... oh wait.
 

Xae

X
Andro said:
They didn't want to program the turret AI to charge a weapon. That's probably why we never had railgun turrets, to say nothing of balance.
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This was so close to a good design.

There should only be the turreted version, it defaults to fixed when there isn't a gunner. But when there is the turreting activates. This would make the gunner role an asset instead of a handicap by forcing you to use downgraded turreted weapons.
 

dm06

dm06
Vurrath said:
What has been made / done, to make SURE people know that it'll behave differently to other turrets?
nothing.
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Actually there's a description of the module in the game. Seems at the tech broker.
What could FD do better in the case?... write the description with purple CAPS?... but if they will do that in every similar case then people will start ignoring again... I think its better for the people to start reading. :unsure:
 

Vurrath

Vurrath
A description that describes HOW it will behave differently? if there is, i missed it.

all i saw were multiple turret icons that LOOK the same as OTHER TURRETS, ones that have AI tracking and firing.

hmmm ... a black human shillouette in-front of the turret? one symbol super-imposed over the top of the other?
 

Vurrath

Vurrath
if i remember correctly, someone had even told me of this many months before, but HUMAN MEMORY being what it is, you can simply FORGET, and that's what happened to me.

i'd remembered i was going to spend those weapon blueprints i'd gone to the effort to go get,

came back, did a little research,.. the memory failed at that point i guess,..

and then AS i'm looking through the lists, i didn't NOTICE anything different, about them COMPARED to OTHER turreted weapons.

and THAT, is why, it's unfair / almost false-advertising - it's SIMILARITY, to other-turreted.

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If in the real world , real military hardware failued to mention that it's controls require manual control , ONLY have human-manual control, but are being SOLD in a marketplace where the representation of it if-symbolic , where the norm for what a turret IS, in terms of HOW it behaves ... and so what you can use it FOR ...

you WOULD , get, claims and refunds when people don't find that it does as-much as others with the same LABELLING.

OK, real world, militaries check every little thing, sometimes... para-real world then - A Car-Wars / neo-apolocalyptic setting , where life is cheap and everyone's a buyer-beware ***hole. We've been given that LEVEL of care ... while in-game, in the 'shop' so to speak, there is no-where near that level of desperation and lack-of-care in the people selling the item , or in the realism of the level of competition , between sellers - that's one problem with the homogeny in Elite - if flaws existed in different merchant companies, it would be ROLE PLAY, and you could appreciate it - in Kumo regions, they could even scam you infrequently and you have to do a mini on-foot chase sequence to get your money or stuff back, :) But with all the same kinds of screen-interactions in EVERY SINGLE terminal in the human-universe , one mistake or carelessness, or omission by Frontier ... ends up EVERYWHERE.

Yet when now searching for the info on the Guardian turret, i found it on the ED Wiki , of all places.

hardly official-releases material.
 
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