The Type-10 Defender

Exiledkhallisi

Exiledkhallisi
What is it supposed to be?

Armed Hauler? You can kill elite corvettes in a type 9 with no HRP's.

Hull tank? You can tank more, move faster and deal more damage in a conda.

Anti-Thargoid? Multiple other ships do this better and faster.

Support vessel? Multiple other ships do this better and faster.

After hours of playing with, testing and outfitting the type 10 i have come to the same conclusion everyone else already has. Its a gigantic peice of garbage. The T10 is basically a Keelback 2.0 made from the t9 instead of the t6.

The ship needs at minimum a speed boost... maybe an extra 150MS top speed. Or something to compensate for the fact that in combat any ship can just boost away and wake out from it. Even NPC ships will simply fly off and high wake from you in this.

I also reccomend giving it something to stand out against the other big 3 which are vastly better in every way. Maybe allow the t10 to deploy 2 SLF instead of 1. Or allow it to use more than 4 AX weapons so it can do the job it was designed to do better than every other ship in the game.

This is more of a rant, but is there any insight or light at the end of this tunnel the developers have mentioned. or is the type-10 destined to be a complete failure?

Your thoughts?

PS: Hey devs, where my damn Clipper ship kit, do you not like money?
 

Turd Ferguson

Turd Ferguson
until FDev totally screwed the balance by cloning ridiculous OP thargoids it was a pretty decent goid interceptor killer. now it's pretty useless.
 

Chris Simon

Chris Simon
T10 is to T9 what DBX is to DBS, AspX is to AspS, or Krait mk.II is to Phantom.

A trade off between firepower+armour and internal space, or agility vs versatility, speed vs. survivability,...

Many ships in Elite exist in pairs like this to accomodate different playstyles. I don't really see a problem except that you simply don't like T10, which is fair, but not exactly "a problem"
 
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777Driver

777Driver
Rock Hunter said:
It makes a great heavy explorer if you don’t like the Anaconda or want a big ship but with a great view, one trade off being it’s a slow coach in SC, but then there’s nearly always a trade off somewhere isn’t there?
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Yeah, essentially you get the coldest running heavy ship, highest hull hardness, an increase in normal space manoeuvrability, highest number of weapon slots, double the amount of utility slots than the T9

It is what it is, essentially every one asking for a buffed up T9, they gave us the T-10, then increased the T9's capacity so as not to make it obsolete.

My T-10 fleet consists of one Explorer/Mining build, an open play trader (along with my Cutter) and a PvP build. All ships perform extremely well in their roles.
 

Crimson Kaim

Crimson Kaim
It was supposed to be rhe frontliner against thargoids but since FDev doesn't understand their game balance, it's utterly underpowered for that purpose. Has a niche use in PvP and I got one G5 engineered for the lulz.
But yeah, take a Cutter for any purpose and you have a way better ship than the T10.
 

Deleted member 182079

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T10 excels in RES mining. Fit all (and I mean, literally all) mining tools available, have some space left for 3-4 turrets, fit a fighter bay, tool up on armour and shields, and go mining wherever you want.

The superb cockpit view makes it far superior to the other large ships for this purpose, too.
 

CMDR Karrde Sun

CMDR Karrde Sun
Its really easy.. one of the few true multipurpose ships in the game. You can do more than an exclusive hardcore combat fit while still having the option not to turn and run at every single interdiction.

Not sure i can help if you want a best at stats claim.

+1 Its an amazing turret boat. Try turrets just because someone said something doesn't mean they actually are useless.
 

Susanna

Susanna
Exiledkhallisi said:
What is it supposed to be?

Armed Hauler? You can kill elite corvettes in a type 9 with no HRP's.

Hull tank? You can tank more, move faster and deal more damage in a conda.

Anti-Thargoid? Multiple other ships do this better and faster.

Support vessel? Multiple other ships do this better and faster.

After hours of playing with, testing and outfitting the type 10 i have come to the same conclusion everyone else already has. Its a gigantic peice of garbage. The T10 is basically a Keelback 2.0 made from the t9 instead of the t6.

The ship needs at minimum a speed boost... maybe an extra 150MS top speed. Or something to compensate for the fact that in combat any ship can just boost away and wake out from it. Even NPC ships will simply fly off and high wake from you in this.

I also reccomend giving it something to stand out against the other big 3 which are vastly better in every way. Maybe allow the t10 to deploy 2 SLF instead of 1. Or allow it to use more than 4 AX weapons so it can do the job it was designed to do better than every other ship in the game.

This is more of a rant, but is there any insight or light at the end of this tunnel the developers have mentioned. or is the type-10 destined to be a complete failure?

Your thoughts?

PS: Hey devs, where my damn Clipper ship kit, do you not like money?
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The T10 is basically a useless piece of flying junk. It's one purpose seems to be head butting large planets

https://m.twitch.tv/videos/211783197

Fun to watch but that soon gets old... Even with a 8A Prismatic shield fitted...
One for the bored Sunday evening, what wreckless thing shall I do now moments.
 

sollisb

Banned
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The T10 you say?

I've used it as a HazRez combat machine, but there are better equipped ships.
I've used it as an explorer, but there are better equipped ships.
I've used it as a miner, there no other better equipped ships.


I think the problem is you want it to be something it cannot be.
 

Speedcuffs

Speedcuffs
Chris Simon said:
T10 is to T9 what DBX is to BDS, AspX is to AspS, or Krait mk.II is to Phantom.

A trade off between firepower+armour and internal space, or agility vs versatility, speed vs. survivability,...

Many ships in Elite exist in pairs like this to accomodate different playstyles. I don't really see a problem except that you simply don't like T10, which is fair, but not exactly "a problem"
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BDS? Sounds interesting... :LOL:
 

dm06

dm06
Chris Simon said:
Oh come on, it was three in the morning. :p
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BDS time?

About T-10: Nice fortress, used it for bounty hunting and in CZs... But as for me too slow.

Edit: also this is the biggest ship in the game for the mail slot. After it docking iCutter manually is a piece of cake.
 
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Deleted member 38366

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The T10 makes for a great Painite Miner.
With some drawbacks, it can provide a platform for Deep Space Exploration.

If you don't mind the led brick handling, poor Hardpoint spacing and limited speed - yes, it can be used for Combat. Or act as a Hauler with better protection than a Type-9.
(don't compare it to other Ships though, the Anaconda pretty much beats it in most roles)

Oh, and the T10 sounds great IMHO.
 

Exiledkhallisi

Exiledkhallisi
sollisb said:
The T10 you say?

I've used it as a HazRez combat machine, but there are better equipped ships.
I've used it as an explorer, but there are better equipped ships.
I've used it as a miner, there no other better equipped ships.


I think the problem is you want it to be something it cannot be.
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Not true at all...what makes a good miner is also speed.... speed to fly from core to core asteroid.

The t10 is absolutely terrible at this. In a mining clipper, you could fill up on 198t of void opals and be back filling up your 2nd load before the t10 is half full.

Its not about wanting it to be something its not, its about wanting the ship to be good at something in general. Anything the type 10 can do, something else can do it better. Not just a little bit better, a lot better.

We need a contender for the other big 3 to make things more versatile.

Let the t10 go faster.
Maybe let it have 2 SLF deployed at the same time..
Let it use more than 4 AX weapons.

give it something to stand out.
 
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