Anyone got any numbers or even rough estimates? Is it any good?
Engineers Thermal Conduit
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I run 2 huge beams with Thermal conduit. I would say they are good. As long has the beams are hitting a target, my ship drains heat into them.
Continues fire = no heat build up.
Continues fire = no heat build up.
That's not thermal conduit.
Sorry, Thermal Vent.
First It lower your DPS for 15% (secondary effects that will always come with this effect). For that it allow you to have 100% more damage (no joke here) IF YOU ARE AFTER 100% of HEAT. It's a berserk mode effect.
It is good. But only if you have a really really tough ship. Probably gunship with such beams + sturdy upgrades + 2 reinforced Heat sinks + 2 PD (cause your real enemy is a missiles) and it can work. Probably.
Oh and by the way. The most closer you to 100% heat, more damage you do. On 80% of heat your weapon will deal same damage as before upgrade +15%.
I built a Gunship based around this and without any numbers at all. It is terrible.
Your ship literally falls apart around you after one engagement, the module damage is insane.
Of course carrying any cargo or commodities is out, the cargo hatch breaks open during every battle.
The gunship had all sturdy upgrades and clean drives etc.. seems like a good idea but awful in practice.
You need to be running over 100% heat for it to be viable but then it just destroys you.
Your ship literally falls apart around you after one engagement, the module damage is insane.
Of course carrying any cargo or commodities is out, the cargo hatch breaks open during every battle.
The gunship had all sturdy upgrades and clean drives etc.. seems like a good idea but awful in practice.
You need to be running over 100% heat for it to be viable but then it just destroys you.
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So what, 15% extra damage is the best it can do?
Do you even read? 100% is a damage that you will get if your ship is AFTER 100% of HEAT. While your ship is AFTER 100% HEAT you will get 100% DAMAGE BUFF for weapon with THERMAL CONDUIT.
Hope you understand it.
Oh sorry, thought the comment about it doing a 100% damage after a 100% heat was sarcastic. Yea I get it now.
I've crossed words with Insane4Fun before, but on this instance I am on his side. He put a very detailed explanation of the mechanics involved into his previous post which would have taken time to word so eloquently, so following that up with a 'tard question you deserved his sarcasm.
+1 rep to insane4fun for standing your ground.
You guys are a pleasant bunch here on the engineer forums.
This is good information. Are we 100% the numbers here? We're saying it will do DOUBLE the normal damage if you are at 100% or higher? It doesn't scale? I would have expected it to scale exponentially from 80% heat --> 120% heat, rising from 85% listed weapon damage --> 200% over the course of the rising temperature.
But you're saying it takes a flat hike with the only requirement being hitting and maintaining 100% heat.
Do you happen to have a source? I've done quite a bit of reading and I don't see anything that definitive anywhere.
But you're saying it takes a flat hike with the only requirement being hitting and maintaining 100% heat.
Do you happen to have a source? I've done quite a bit of reading and I don't see anything that definitive anywhere.
I might do some testing.
Again.. It will deal same damage as before Thermal conduit damage debuff (-15%) while after 80% of heat.
Even after 1700% of heat - damage buff is always a same.
And again..
We have plasma 120 damage. We put on this plasma Thermal conduit. From this moment plasma will deal 102 damage (damage depends on upgrade class)
After you get 80% of heat - plasma will deal 120 damage again. But after 100% of heat plasma will deal 204MJ damage.
That is how it work.
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Ok, so considering the numbers provided, that means that when you're at 100%+ heat (taking module damage), you do 170% the damage of a non-special weapon. I'm not sure that's worth it, considering the current implementation of the weapons with access to the effect.
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