Thinking about EDH's planetary tech switch and VR, should I upgrade my wife's CPU or mine

[VR andysonofbob]

I am close to getting a Ryzen 7 #700x CPU bundle. Or similar priced Intel. Obviously going to wait until Ryzen releases next gen, which seems to be soonTM

If you look at my sig you will see our two systems. I am generally happy with my system's performance. The wife's PC struggles, even lowering graphics settings (Assetto Corsa is silk though!) and I recon it is CPU as it is smooth juddery (I know that sounds contradictory) and sometimes the judder is regular. Hardware monitor always has CPU >75% load, with spikes which I imagine are the judders. GPU rarely maxes out, which is sort of opposite to mine when on the same game/resolution/settings.

I want to be able to continue playing EDO with the misses. I usually upgrade my PC and give the misses the hand-me-downs but I was thinking should I supercharge my wife's PC instead, in order to get the max out of that 1070 to help her PC run EDO? Kate is happy with minimum grx but for VR you obviously need sufficient FPS to keep it smooth and I can bet that come Tuesday, her PC won't cut it. It barely does now tbh.

What do you think? And thanks very much in advance!

 

[Ashnak]

If you're waiting for Ryzen next gen, you're going to need a new motherboard (at least). Which is why I now have Ryzen 9 5900X waiting to be installed in my old rig.
So, if you are going to go for a next gen CPU, you might as well give your rig "as is" minus the GPU to your wife and build yourself a new one.

Same situation with your wife's setup - anything with a significantly better CPU will require a new motherboard, too.

 

[VR andysonofbob]

If you're waiting for Ryzen next gen, you're going to need a new motherboard (at least). Which is why I now have Ryzen 9 5900X waiting to be installed in my old rig.
So, if you are going to go for a next gen CPU, you might as well give your rig "as is" minus the GPU to your wife and build yourself a new one.

Same situation with your wife's setup - anything with a significantly better CPU will require a new motherboard, too.

Thanks!

Sure.

My thoughts were buying a Ryzen 7 #700x CPU bundle (# for the next gen version), which includes the MB and RAM. But who to give it to?
Option 1 is give the new one to me: which will mean I give my wife my old CPU, RAM and MB
Option 2 is give it to the wife: which will mean mine stays the same, though I might upgrade to Ryzen 7 3800x or something. My MB annoyingly isn't compatible with gen 5 Ryzens.

Whatever option, the old CPU etc is binned

 

[Morbad]

Pair thew CPU with the 3080 Ti. Upgrading to a 3800X won't do you much good (it's less than a 10% increase in typical boost clocks, over the 3600); though I am curious as to what AM4 board lacks 5000 series support at this point.

A Ryzen 5 3600 is a fair upgrade over an i5-4590 and much more suitable for the GTX 1070.

 

[Ashnak]

So, if I understand you correctly:
a) next-gen Ryzen (or whatever) with 3080ti for you, wife gets the 3rd gen 7/3600 with the 1070
or
b) as-is for you, wife gets a next-gen Ryzen and keeps her 1070

Technically, I'd go for a). The 1070 won't be able to keep up with that next-gen Ryzen. I'm currently running a Ryzen7 3800 with a 1080ti on an HP reverb, and it's definitely the GPU that's the bottleneck.
In terms of marital harmony, you'll have to ask someone else.

IIRC you're in the US? Otherwise, I'll (probably/hopefully) have a 7/3800 and a 1080ti for sale soon

 

[VR andysonofbob]

So, if I understand you correctly:
a) next-gen Ryzen (or whatever) with 3080ti for you, wife gets the 3rd gen 7/3600 with the 1070
or
b) as-is for you, wife gets a next-gen Ryzen and keeps her 1070

Technically, I'd go for a). The 1070 won't be able to keep up with that next-gen Ryzen. I'm currently running a Ryzen7 3800 with a 1080ti on an HP reverb, and it's definitely the GPU that's the bottleneck.
In terms of marital harmony, you'll have to ask someone else.

Will do!

Yeah, sounds like A is the sensible option.

Thanks

IIRC you're in the US? Otherwise, I'll (probably/hopefully) have a 7/3800 and a 1080ti for sale soon

Ooo! That sounds exciting! What are you thinking of getting to drive that new Ryzen 9?
7/3800 and a 1080ti sounds interesting... I'm in Norfolk, Blighty by the way. You?

 

[Ashnak]

Will do!

Yeah, sounds like A is the sensible option.

Thanks

Ooo! That sounds exciting! What are you thinking of getting to drive that new Ryzen 9?
7/3800 and a 1080ti sounds interesting... I'm in Norfolk, Blighty by the way. You?

You mean the GPU? Got a 6900XT for that. I'm in Southern Germany.

 

[VR andysonofbob]

You mean the GPU? Got a 6900XT for that. I'm in Southern Germany.

Nice! And comparable to mine, so your rig will probably be similar to what I hope to end up with now that I am going with Option A.

Would you be willing to write a little review of your bundle once built please? I would love to hear your findings on that Ryzen 9 with your card in ED.

All the best!

 

[Ashnak]

First impression (finally completed the swap). AMD driver 22.5.1 (recommended on the AMD site, 22.8.1 is labelled as "optional"), not installed the GPU specific TriXX software (yet). Works very well - 6900 XT is significantly faster (well, it should be) than the 1080 ti. Haven't dropped into that frame-repeat scheme (forgot how it's called) even once, load bar in the SteamVR window keeps comfortably below the horizontal line (i.e. the GPU is always faster than it needs to be to keep up with the demands of the headset), where it was constantly above it (at least inside stations and planetary bases) before. Playing in Horizons only (so far).

Also not seen any of those planetary texture loading issues - but then again, 2 of the four places I touched down were in the dark anyways...

One notable change in the graphics, though: the orbit lines of satellites (less noticeable) and the gravity well indicators (very noticeable) seem to be drawn with less than one pixel in line width, leading to them being near invisible from any appreciable distance. Might be the issue everyone discusses about the AMD drivers and (anti)aliasing. Main orbit lines (of planets around the stars) look fine.

Graphics settings unchanged from before, so not using oversampling (HMD resolution is good enough), with mostly high graphics settings.

 

[Mrc_NorthEast]

If it were me, I would wait until next gen drops and pick up the previous gen. The bang for buck will be much higher that way. Next gen Cpu's should be 30-50% faster but probably 50-70% more expensive. I usually target the 70 class of GPU as well, and again I would wait and pick up as much gpu as your budget will allow. Finally a good time to upgrade our pc's.