PvP This is why the incoming law enforcement buff and penalties can't come soon enough.

Any newcomer can jump away like anyone else. There isn't any specific newcomer content there in any way. Yes, its lame, yes, appropriate C&P would be fun. But no, this dramaqueeny 'OMG Open is surely dying!!!!!!!' stuff is equally annoying.

You think it is so bad? Your sig tells me you've got an FDL. Use it.
 
Any newcomer can jump away like anyone else. There isn't any specific newcomer content there in any way. Yes, its lame, yes, appropriate C&P would be fun. But no, this dramaqueeny 'OMG Open is surely dying!!!!!!!' stuff is equally annoying.

You think it is so bad? Your sig tells me you've got an FDL. Use it.

My bet is alt account set up for mining.
 
Read the reddit thread.

Ok, I don't have much faith in Fdev fixing things, so we can't stop the greifing, but.....

We can stop the lockdowns. If enough people bounty hunt in solo, the lockdowns will end and people can actually use those stations. Hopefully, SDC and their cohorts will go into a fit of rage for us bypassing their "protection services", in the most underhand way possible, and we can all sit back and enjoy the show.

Side note: yes, we could also all go over their in open and kill them repeatedly, but that's much harder than it sounds with their ability to co-ordinate and pick us off one by one. Also wouldn't be as funny as the above.
 
CMDR, there's a place you can go
I said, CMDR, friendly people you'll know
You can stay there and I'm sure you will find
Many ways to have a good time.

It's fun to stay in M - O - bius.
It's fun to play in M - O - bius.

If you can get in, the more popular one "Mobius" is maxed out, and "Mobius PVE" is filling fast.
 
CMDR, there's a place you can go
I said, CMDR, friendly people you'll know
You can stay there and I'm sure you will find
Many ways to have a good time.

It's fun to stay in M - O - bius.
It's fun to play in M - O - bius.

Didn't mobius get ganked themselves at one point.

Real safe....not.
 
Or just run Hans Solo style over to another system.

I mean, surely the galaxy and even the bubble is big enough for groups to RP however they want? It may be disruptive and may disproportionately impact new players, but there is some creativity there and I'm not really in a position to determine how anyone else should play the game.
 
Well. Even very pvp oriented online games have bans for killing new players in newbie systems. I hope Fdev will go the same way. That's just lame and is bad for all the involved sides, including the gankers.
 
Didn't mobius get ganked themselves at one point.

Real safe....not.

It did, some of the PVP commanders(no name, they know who they are and which group) decided to troll Mobius, fortunately once banned, the only way back in is with a new account, so yes, relative to open, it's very safe.
 
Heh, very unlikely this will affect new players much. When I first started the game I took missions and jumped away without knowing what I was doing, and I never went back. I didn't even realise there were multiple stations in my starting system until the recent CGs at the starter systems!
 
Didn't mobius get ganked themselves at one point.

Real safe....not.

Its all very meh. About what, twenty or so people got griefed in mobius in three years? So its really nothing. Except people screamed and yelled and cried very very hard. "A friend of mine saw on reddit a link to a post of someone who got shot in Mobius!!!!! I will never play again!!!!". Which was all the griefers were after anyway. Open is pretty darn safe as well, been poodling around Maia for weeks now in small ships and not a single incident.

Its a big galaxy filled with extremely loud moaning. :)
 
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If only all carebears logged into open. They would realise they outnumber both nomads and sdc by thousands. Then they would start to bounty hunt. Then we would have a nice multiplayer game. But i guess they want to play in pg and solo in order to play the game the way they want to do. I've said this in the reddit post too. All a PvPer wants is a fight. Give it to them. Stand up to your oppressors. Start bounty hunting players.
 
If only all carebears logged into open. They would realise they outnumber both nomads and sdc by thousands. Then they would start to bounty hunt. Then we would have a nice multiplayer game. But i guess they want to play in pg and solo in order to play the game the way they want to do. I've said this in the reddit post too. All a PvPer wants is a fight. Give it to them. Stand up to your oppressors. Start bounty hunting players.

"I'm the one who wants players who do not want to direct-PvP, to direct-PvP."
 
If only all carebears logged into open. They would realise they outnumber both nomads and sdc by thousands. Then they would start to bounty hunt. Then we would have a nice multiplayer game. But i guess they want to play in pg and solo in order to play the game the way they want to do. I've said this in the reddit post too. All a PvPer wants is a fight. Give it to them. Stand up to your oppressors. Start bounty hunting players.
You guess they want to play the game the way they want to. I'd say that's a good guess :)

So why decide to play the way they don't want to, to 'stand up to' some player?

Edit: aka what Genar said.
 
If only all carebears logged into open. They would realise they outnumber both nomads and sdc by thousands. Then they would start to bounty hunt. Then we would have a nice multiplayer game. But i guess they want to play in pg and solo in order to play the game the way they want to do. I've said this in the reddit post too. All a PvPer wants is a fight. Give it to them. Stand up to your oppressors. Start bounty hunting players.

If you actually read the reddit thread, you'd see someone pointed they still use God rolled ships. Plus, they are co-coordinated, we are not. In all likelihood they'd either run or just kill us if we tried to stop them.

Unless, maybe, if your so confident, you could set up a group to fight the gankers....hmmmm.....
 
What's the point of doing this though?

People complain you don't meet many people in open.
Go ruin new players' fun in open. (people who can barely land their sidewinder, let alone they actually know what mobius is)
New players don't stick around.
Complain you don't meet many people in open anymore.

Pretty much shooting themselves in the foot here.
 
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