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"Scouting a route is all very well, and we applaud the achievements of these adventurers," said Karl Devene, head of Astrocartography at Mars High. "But these explorers should not be under the impression that these areas can be considered even partially charted. There is much that remains to be done."

Those who can, do; those who cannot, criticize.
 
He's not wrong, Stellar regions are huge, even a place with sparse star density such as the abyss will still have millions of stars to chart.
Plotting a route though it is very good, though, as pilots can navigate through the area.
 
Oh, certainly, but calling us adventurers implies that we are not professionals... Academia v. the real world

That is what I meant by criticzing. ;)
 
When I read that GalNet report I was smiling at the reference to us as "adventurers". We are pioneers explorers and adventurers. Not some beurocrat sat at a desk writing news. I'm happy to be termed as an Adventurer.
 
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I think maybe that was a bit of GalNet foreshadowing towards more things being implemented into the galaxy during later seasons, and that areas we "think" we know pretty well may one day have entirely new stuff in them that changes things. Like possibly rogue planets, or dark systems, or wormholes, etc.



I mean really I'm just glad to hear anything exploration related on GalNet, lol!
 
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Got this picture in my mind now of some guy sitting back comfortable and saying the same of, say, Lewis and Clark.

Just finding navigable mountain passes or waterways is, "all very well," right?
 
I think maybe that was a bit of GalNet foreshadowing towards more things being implemented into the galaxy during later seasons, and that areas we "think" we know pretty well may one day have entirely new stuff in them that changes things. Like possibly rogue planets, or dark systems, or wormholes, etc.



I mean really I'm just glad to hear anything exploration related on GalNet, lol!

New improved scanners that show lots of stuff the old ones missed..... like Aliens :)
 
"Scouting a route is all very well, and we applaud the achievements of these adventurers," said Karl Devene, head of Astrocartography at Mars High. "But these explorers should not be under the impression that these areas can be considered even partially charted. There is much that remains to be done."
What a load of tosh. These areas are clearly partially charted.

This guy is head of Astrocartography? That explains the shambles it's in.
 
Maybe you should read it less as an insult, but more as an encouragement.
No matter how much has already been explored, there is still plenty to see...
 
Maybe you should read it less as an insult, but more as an encouragement.
No matter how much has already been explored, there is still plenty to see...
I will take any opportunity to be insulted! :D

Only this time it's an insult to logic. These areas are partially charted even if it's just 0.00001%. That's my story and I'm sticking to it! :)



Disclaimer: No Ziggy's were insulted in the writing of any of these posts.
 
I still maintain that Distant Worlds is the equivalent of an Explorers Stag Party, youre all just a bunch of hoorays off littering the place up with crashed ships, ruined SRVs and canisters of unwanted Tea....

(I have to caveat this with the admission that I didn't join the expedition as I couldn't guarantee to provide the level of commitment it took to get you all out to BP and beyond. Massive respect...but still...hooligans!) ;)
 
I still maintain that Distant Worlds is the equivalent of an Explorers Stag Party, youre all just a bunch of hoorays off littering the place up with crashed ships, ruined SRVs and canisters of unwanted Tea....
On the contrary - I was passing through the Lagoon Nebula a couple of days ago, and stopped briefly at DW-WP1 while I was there. They'd left it thoroughly clean - indeed, perhaps less full of tea, escape pods, and crashed probes than the average landing site. The expedition's commitment to keeping the galaxy tidy should be applauded.
 
On the contrary - I was passing through the Lagoon Nebula a couple of days ago, and stopped briefly at DW-WP1 while I was there. They'd left it thoroughly clean - indeed, perhaps less full of tea, escape pods, and crashed probes than the average landing site. The expedition's commitment to keeping the galaxy tidy should be applauded.

It won't be long though, pretty soon all there'll be along the supposedly partial route will be first discovered by tags...I mean, really, some consideration for others please!
 
Is it really criticism? Or is it a hint that there is still something important that has yet to be found? I choose to read the latter. If anything it's probably the bureaucratic UC version of "encouragement" :)
 
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I still maintain that Distant Worlds is the equivalent of an Explorers Stag Party, youre all just a bunch of hoorays off littering the place up with crashed ships, ruined SRVs and canisters of unwanted Tea....

(I have to caveat this with the admission that I didn't join the expedition as I couldn't guarantee to provide the level of commitment it took to get you all out to BP and beyond. Massive respect...but still...hooligans!) ;)

Kind of like that old series, Myst, and its spinoff, Pyst, where you are playing after everyone and their brother has been through.

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Is it really criticism? Or is it a hint that there is still something important that has yet to be found? I choose to read the latter. If anything it's probably the bureaucratic UC version of "encouragement" :)

Oh, no doubt there are still things to find, interact with, etc. I just felt the tone of the article was that of a senior academic pshawing the amateurs while he sits lordly behind his desk because they don't have his credentials.

Been there, done that, although it wasn't exploring, it was IT.
 
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Been there, done that, although it wasn't exploring, it was IT.

That kind of IT guy used to annoy me earlier in my career. Then one day it dawned on me that these guys are Computer Janitors that don't know they're Computer Janitors. Now I always feel a little bit sad for them.
 
For me, it was the fact that Pilsbury wouldn't hire any of the guys I worked with because we didn't have Bachelor's degrees or better, but they'd pay my employer $150.00/hr for us to resolve problems that they couldn't.
 
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For me, it was the fact that Pilsbury wouldn't hire any of the guys I worked with because we didn't have Bachelor's degrees or better

When I started at the software company I work at there was no dedicated HR department, as it's grown one appeared. Once there was someone full time in HR looking for things to fill their time requirements started being written down for jobs - and now at least half the people in the development team wouldn't get past the HR filter. If I was looking to take on someone new and my own CV from 16 years ago turned up it wouldn't get past them and I would never see it. It is a special kind of madness...
 
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