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Avago Earo

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I'm just saying this to anyone that it might affect. It's important.

Talk to people. I nearly died. My friends asked me to get help. I saw a Doctor. I was scared of medication, so I didn't take it. Twenty odd years and I didn't take it. I explained to my dr about my anxiety, and she gave me a small dose to start with, cut in half, until my body accepts the change. Then, with time I upped the dose. It's starting to work now.

I feel 'normal', I'm enjoying going for walks with my mates' dogs. I couldn't do that a couple of months ago. Today I walked into town and back and appreciated the architecture and the wildlife. I even flirted with a woman last night.

I hope that anyone that is living with depression sees this. I want to encourage anyone to talk to their friends/family. Go to your doctor and be honest.

Medication isn't for everybody, it's still your choice. I'm just trying to share my experience if anyone else is going through it, but has worries.

Anyone can PM me. If I'm online, I'll talk about anything.

Peace.
 

Avago Earo

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No one should suffer alone. Everyone has a voice. No one has the right to put you down. You are stronger than you could ever imagine. You are more beautiful than you realise. You earned your right to be human. It belongs to you x
 

Sir.Tj

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Very glad to hear that things are getting better for you.

Talking to the right people can really make the difference.

Keep up the fight.
 

Rob At Work

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I have similar issues. I've been open about it from the start - denial is a big problem; but I have lost count of the amount of people who don't take their medication as prescribed and then complain about it, same with therapy.

Good luck and well done for dealing with it like an adult (in the end) :)
 

Winterwalker

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For sure Commanders. It is good to talk. Patrick is also right I think, that natural endorphins from even very moderate exercise - are a surprisingly effective, and organic alternative, to what is after all heavier when it's synthetic drug therapy. Maybe do both.

We lead more and more sedentary lifestyles and exercise is thought to slow Alzheimers too so speaking as an ED spaceman, I try remember some time on the treadmill to combat zero-G (real world) atrophy and my daily is a few situps and pressups after I shower and before I get dressed in the morning (I do mean a few - five is better than none - but do it daily and you can soon do one more rep each day). Myself, I also try to take 10 deliberate minutes outside with a cup of coffee daily, anywhere sunny to pick up some UV and vitamin D.

As far as food cartridges go - leaving half the carbs from your diet (one slice of toast instead of two, or only two potatos instead of three, eating the same proteins but reducing carbs) will drop your weight quite effectively, which helps how you feel, on the oustide as well as on the inside. Plus it just might mean you can play ED for longer by not dying - perhaps stupidly - young. Moderate stuff though, gym bunnies are known to explode!

The Japanese have a blessing for it, "Ganba Te Kudasai". (It means 'fight!'). It's good to acknoweldge what are genuine difficulties but wallowing, can also be a problem. Just remember that you come from a long line of survivors. Not a single one of your personal ancesters - from the very first microbe - ever died before they reproduced. Think of it, there's deep time written into every one of your genes! And that is in spite of the fact, that the world at large from dinosaurs, to disease and starvation has been doing it's level best to kill you, ever since deep time began .. but what you're made of didn't die!

To win the war become the war then, cos we're a long time dead after all. Life can be tough it's true but it's better than the alternative? So fight on Commanders and I'll see you in the black. o7
 
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Avago Earo

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Patrick_68000 said:
Medication is good but not for a long time. This is a temporary solution.

Sport can help if you can do it

Fly safe ! Commander
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That's true. Sometimes we need a 'leg up' to get us on the path. It is medicine, after all, and it's better than vodka and screaming at people on forums because your soul is dark when it could be lifted. Peace, and cheers for the reply.
 

Avago Earo

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Rob At Work said:
I have similar issues. I've been open about it from the start - denial is a big problem; but I have lost count of the amount of people who don't take their medication as prescribed and then complain about it, same with therapy.

Good luck and well done for dealing with it like an adult (in the end) :)
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That's why I'm being open. Kill the stigma, not the person. 'dealing with it like an adult (in the end)': Point taken. Take care.
 

Avago Earo

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Winterwalker said:
For sure Commanders. It is good to talk. Patrick is also right I think, that natural endorphins from even very moderate exercise - are a surprisingly effective and organic alternative, to what is after all heavier when it's synthetic drug therapy. Maybe do both.

We lead more and more sedentary lifestyles and exercise is thought to slow Alzheimers too so speaking as an ED spaceman, I try remember some time on the treadmill to combat zero-G (real world) atrophy and my daily is a few situps and pressups after I shower and before I get dressed in the morning (I do mean a few - five is better than none - but do it daily and you can soon do one more rep each day). Myself, I also try to take 10 deliberate minutes outside with a cup of coffee daily, anywhere sunny to pick up some UV and vitamin D.

As far as food cartridges go - leaving half the carbs from your diet (one slice of toast instead of two, or only two potatos instead of three, eating the same proteins but reducing carbs) will drop your weight quite effectively, which helps how you feel, on the oustide as well as on the inside. Plus it just might mean you can play ED for longer by not dying - perhaps stupidly - young. Moderate stuff though, gym bunnies are known to explode!

The Japanese have a blessing for it, "Ganba Te Kudasai". (It means 'fight!'). It's good to acknoweldge what are genuine difficulties but wallowing, can also be a problem too. Just remember that you come from a long line of survivors. Not a single one of your personal ancesters - from the very first microbe - ever died before they reproduced. Think of that, there's deep time written in your genes. And that is in spite of the fact that the world at large, from dinosaurs, to disease to starvation have been doing their level best to kill you! Ever since deep time began but your core didn't die!

To win the war .. become the war cos we're a long time dead after all. (Life can be tough but it's better than the alternative!) So fight on Commanders and I'll see you in the black. o7
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Thank you so much for that. Exercise is definitely the long term way forward, just now, as in right now, I'm appreciating the lift in mood from the medication. It has made a massive difference. I'm not out of it, but I feel more focused and able to deal with household chores. My Doctor says I can use the local gym at a lower cost (I'm signed off work so have to live on benefits, but I'm not ashamed anymore -if help is offered, take it and get back on track)

Diet as you mentioned, is important too. I've made a note of what you mentioned. I recently went vegan (another conversation), so I have been more aware of my calorie and carb intake, but it's definitely true that what you eat will affect your mood.

I really appreciate your reply. Take care mate. In life I've got Flight Assist on for a while and it's helping. Peace to you.
 

Avago Earo

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First step, know yourself. Nicely done OP, so brave!
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It wasn't that brave. I know what you mean, but sometimes it's easier just to say it than worry about reactions. Peace to you.

Oh, and 'know yourself'; very good advice indeed. I don't know whether we really give enough time to see ourselves with all the distractions.

It's great, the replies here. I feel better, and I just wanted to speak, in case someone else was in the same situation, i.e. scared of taking medication. It's okay, just stay in touch with your doctor and be honest about what's going on. You don't have to take meds, as WinterWalker pointed out, exercise and diet are probably more important, but if you get in a certain state: Ask for help. Take care mate.
 
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Patrick_68000 said:
Medication is good but not for a long time. This is a temporary solution.

Sport can help if you can do it

Fly safe ! Commander
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Absolutely. I used to fight full contact kick boxing in the ring. And got a 2nd Dan in Wado Ryu. I even had a licence granted by the home office as an official bodyguard to the Emperor of Taiwan (long story short: it was a Kung Fu thing), so I was quite sporty; pretty good fast bowler too (ah cricket...) But my main exercise over the last few years has been a short walk to the supermarket to buy vodka and try to sleep. I think, at that low, for so long, it was time to grow a pair and put pride aside and ask for help.

Exercise is next on my list.

Patrick, it's always been good talking to you. We've debated and discussed things (yay democracy). Take care, mate.
 

Avago Earo

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Sir.Tj said:
Very glad to hear that things are getting better for you.

Talking to the right people can really make the difference.

Keep up the fight.
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Yes talking really does help. It's helped me for sure. I hope it helps others too. Keep the conversation going. Sadness is not good. It has its place, but it shouldn't go on forever. If it does: Tell someone. You find out that a lot of people are going through it. Let's make this a good planet x
 

Flatkat

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A problem is depression can make a person not want to burden others with your own issues. Pride can also complicate matters too. I tend to withdraw from friends and family for these reasons alone. BUT one must ALWAYS remember, tomorrow is another day and who knows what it may bring ;). Laughter is my best medicine, even if i just laugh at myself. And if i can make others laugh at the same time, well that sure makes me feel better.
Avago, i'm so happy your getting on top of it. You deserve every happiness that comes your way ;)
 

Avago Earo

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Rob At Work said:
I have similar issues. I've been open about it from the start - denial is a big problem; but I have lost count of the amount of people who don't take their medication as prescribed and then complain about it, same with therapy.

Good luck and well done for dealing with it like an adult (in the end) :)
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I hope you're feeling okay now Rob At Work. Yeah, complaining about medication. In my case, can't speak for anyone else, I was experiencing panic attacks on top of being depressed. Because of that, I was too scared to really give antidepressants a chance (I read the side effects and it worried me). I have been to A&E a number of times because my breathing was screwed up. It's not like: Oh there is a Lion chasing me; that's why I'm experiencing Adrenalin. It came from nowhere, but not really, I identified the trigger years later: I took my mates body down from a noose, trying to save him when I was about 21. It changed me, but I just hit the bottle and ignored it. Years and years of drunkenness and fighting. Projecting anger on other's when it's yourself you're really angry with. So now, I'm taking small steps: Less alcohol, take the meds. And it's working. I was told it will take a while but it's working now.

I appreciate you talking to me. Thank you.
 

verminstar

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Cool yer getting the help ye need, I truly hope ye make it through. Depression has many causes and its not always that straightforward to fix...Ive been on medication fer about a decade and yet Im still on a watchlist apparently...because I also have anger issues that can be quite destructive when they appear and unfortunately, the medication required to negate those issues turns me into a dribbling zombie who cant string a sentence together cos Im so wiped out and cease to function like a human being. Feels a bit like the 90s actually every time I went to a rave...

Unfortunately, no medication in the world will fix me...the cause is deep and permanent and there is no cure...so I just live with it because I have to and make the best of a bad lot. However, I am glad to hear yer on the right road to recovery now...long may that continue ^
 
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