Horizons Too early to start musing about 2.2?

Soopyyy · Jun 3, 2016

Hi,
As per the title, is it too early to start talking about what might come with 2.2?
I believe there has been mention of multi-crew ships, fighters launched from the larger ships and so on. What else do you think we might see?

Could we see the inclusion of NPC crew mates and wingmen? I'd love that. Given my geographical location (Australia) syncing up with friends around the world is a hit and miss venture. Latency is also killer at times even on the best connection I can achieve in this country (100/40).
NPC wing men would solve this issue to a large degree for me.

So what else would you like to see included?

Cheers,
CMDR Soopyyy.

Drachenklaue · Jun 3, 2016

1) Character Creator
But only to allow, the brilliant idea of:
2) Player-controlled co-pilots/passengers.

I have too many friends that would love to chill out in my ship.

And g'day, fellow Aussie.

Khelder · Jun 3, 2016

I'd definitely love NPC wingmen. I think it would add an interesting twist to things. Fellow Aussie too and know the dramas of our wonderfully advanced copper network (don't worry - I think I'm only a couple of years away from a fibre connection... to my local exchange [mad]). Don't think it'll be in this season, though.

Soopyyy · Jun 3, 2016

Khelder said:
I'd definitely love NPC wingmen. I think it would add an interesting twist to things. Fellow Aussie too and know the dramas of our wonderfully advanced copper network (don't worry - I think I'm only a couple of years away from a fibre connection... to my local exchange [mad]). Don't think it'll be in this season, though.

I've been lucky enough to get the Fibre to the property NBN setup. Doesn't help latency at all though.

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Soopyyy said:
I've been lucky enough to get the Fibre to the property NBN setup. Doesn't help latency at all though.

Both of you feel free to add me in game. Same user name. I've got a discord channel I use frequently too.

Khelder · Jun 3, 2016

Soopyyy said:
I've been lucky enough to get the Fibre to the property NBN setup. Doesn't help latency at all though.

Very jealous! You're probably right about latency, though. We still have the intercontinental links in the way. My main gripe is having to do YouTube uploads overnight because they can take hours and it cripples everything else. And I pay extra for a synchronous DSL connection to help with upload speeds. [ugh]

Anyway... back to topic.

Fosdyke · Jun 3, 2016

A bunch of new missions to play with

Two new ships should be introduced to complete the fleet with the Orca (Beluga /Dolphin).
A totally new career to start in the game.

Soopyyy · Jun 3, 2016

Khelder said:
Very jealous! You're probably right about latency, though. We still have the intercontinental links in the way. My main gripe is having to do YouTube uploads overnight because they can take hours and it cripples everything else. And I pay extra for a synchronous DSL connection to help with upload speeds. [ugh]

Anyway... back to topic.

Know the feels. 16+hrs to upload a 40min vid. Now takes ~20mins

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Fosdyke said:
A bunch of new missions to play with Two new ships should be introduced to complete the fleet with the Orca (Beluga /Dolphin).
A totally new career to start in the game.

A buddy and I want the Dolphin so we can paint it yellow and call it the short bus. Then we're going to fill it with slaves to dump into a star.

sensai25 · Jun 3, 2016

Soopyyy said:
Hi,
As per the title, is it too early to start talking about what might come with 2.2?
I believe there has been mention of multi-crew ships, fighters launched from the larger ships and so on. What else do you think we might see?

Could we see the inclusion of NPC crew mates and wingmen? I'd love that. Given my geographical location (Australia) syncing up with friends around the world is a hit and miss venture. Latency is also killer at times even on the best connection I can achieve in this country (100/40).
NPC wing men would solve this issue to a large degree for me.

So what else would you like to see included?

Cheers,
CMDR Soopyyy.

Not multi crew as it is planned from the beginning in 2.3.

2.2 – Guardians
Still to come
Take what comes and strike back with double. Bring a second ship to every combat encounter with Ship-Launched Fighters and defend your passengers against the deadliest threats in the galaxy.

2.3 – The Commanders
Still to come
Team up and stand together. Forge your own identity with the new Commander Creator, then share your bridge with Multi-Crew and fly with friends.

From here : https://www.frontierstore.net/games/elite-dangerous-horizons-dlc.html

Miklos Atreides · Jun 3, 2016

Well, currently looking at this with some concerns because 2.1 was 2 months late and if you review the release cycles the plan was

winter 2.0
spring 2.1
summer 2.2
autumn 2.3
(winter Season 3 ...)

now Speculation on:

with about being 10 weeks behind the question is if development for 2.2 was already onging while finalizing 2.1. Becuase or resources I doubt.
So 2.2 is a couple of weeks late and 2.3 seems to be the same. For 3.0 it looks a little better because I am sure the content scope for Season 3 is already complete
and worked on.

But when hitting 2.2 in August (keep in mind its holiday season) then 2.3 is ... when? and three weeks later releasing Season 3 because of Christmas business.
Tough timings are coming to Frontier to keep those promised timelines. Maybe multicrew gets postponed to Season 3. (This is a game changing feature).

speculation off.

FD please correct me if my assumptions are wrong.

Regards,
Miklos

Alex Brentnall · Jun 3, 2016

Miklos Atreides said:
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Or they extend season 2 into (say for example) March next year and run a shorter (possibly cheaper) season 3? Bringing them back onto the 1 year cycle for when S4 comes along.

I personally (LEP) couldn't really care less about how long it takes with the updates, give me one every 6 months provided it's as earth-shatteringly awesome as 2.1 and 2.0 have been. I mean just look at the size of dem patch notes

I half expect 2.2 and 2.3 to be bundled together somehow say in September. They push 2.4 out (whatever that is) in December and try to keep 3.0 on track for January sometime with pre-orders running over Christmas.

sensai25 · Jun 3, 2016

Miklos Atreides said:
Well, currently looking at this with some concerns because 2.1 was 2 months late and if you review the release cycles the plan was

winter 2.0
spring 2.1
summer 2.2
autumn 2.3
(winter Season 3 ...)

now Speculation on:

with about being 10 weeks behind the question is if development for 2.2 was already onging while finalizing 2.1. Becuase or resources I doubt.
So 2.2 is a couple of weeks late and 2.3 seems to be the same. For 3.0 it looks a little better because I am sure the content scope for Season 3 is already complete
and worked on.

But when hitting 2.2 in August (keep in mind its holiday season) then 2.3 is ... when? and three weeks later releasing Season 3 because of Christmas business.
Tough timings are coming to Frontier to keep those promised timelines. Maybe multicrew gets postponed to Season 3. (This is a game changing feature).

speculation off.

FD please correct me if my assumptions are wrong.

Regards,
Miklos

David Braben said 2.2 will drop when it's ready so if it need more time they will take it in a recent livestream.

So now 2.1 is there why not playing it instead of waiting something that will arrive anyway.

starman · Jun 3, 2016

There was this discussion about not having cutscenes in games , but that Enginner video look pretty damn good [video]https://www.frontierstore.net/games/elite-dangerous-horizons-dlc.html[/video]

Gaxel · Jun 3, 2016

We need more way to spend our credits, with a Python and an ASP I haven't any need for anther ship, so I accumulate credits.
Why the don't give us mercenaries in space station, to be hired for time, that act like wings to us? The AI is already there, they could spawn the mercenary outside the station waiting for us, they communicate with us via the comm system, to give orders we coud have a list in the comm panel.

Marc_Hicks · Jun 3, 2016

sensai25 said:
David Braben said 2.2 will drop when it's ready so if it need more time they will take it in a recent livestream.

So now 2.1 is there why not playing it instead of waiting something that will arrive anyway.

I plan to do both

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The headline features of 2.2 are ship launched fighters & passenger missions. Beyond that, my hopes are for more mission templates & wrinkles, & a major overhaul of Power Play.

2.3, aside from Multi-crew & avatars, will hopefully bring a major expansion in the number of NPC faces we get to see, along with the long promised overhaul of the military component of the game.....and possibly even Volcanism.

Marc_Hicks · Jun 3, 2016

Fosdyke said:
A bunch of new missions to play with Two new ships should be introduced to complete the fleet with the Orca (Beluga /Dolphin).
A totally new career to start in the game.

My hope is that they start bringing out all the real big trade/passenger ships-like the puma, panther, lion and Tiger. Also, anyone else want to see Lynx Bulk Transports moving about star systems....a la Frontier?

Miklos Atreides · Jun 3, 2016

sensai25 said:
David Braben said 2.2 will drop when it's ready so if it need more time they will take it in a recent livestream.

So now 2.1 is there why not playing it instead of waiting something that will arrive anyway.

Which is good.
This is all about pure speculation but shows very good how hard it is to keep boxed releases in their timeframe.
I don't have any problem if FD merges 2.3 with 3.0 or step out of boxed schemas (but i doubt due to en vouge agile development)
The main thing is the next release is to be at least as exiting as the latest one (if possible error free).

Regards,
Miklos

Fosdyke · Jun 3, 2016

Marc_Hicks said:
My hope is that they start bringing out all the real big trade/passenger ships-like the puma, panther, lion and Tiger. Also, anyone else want to see Lynx Bulk Transports moving about star systems....a la Frontier?

I am in for those great ships too

Soopyyy · Jun 3, 2016

Yeah, I would love to see some massive ships as well. Make them so big and slow that anything short of turreted hardpoints is a waste, then give us Huge Turrets

MarikMonika · Jun 3, 2016

Everything we know about next versions of the game:
https://www.reddit.com/r/EliteDange...rizons_and_its_included_expansions_the_known/

Please notice: this list has been updated on april, so some things are already out with 2.1

Barking_Mad · Jun 3, 2016

MarikZero said:
Everything we know about next versions of the game:
https://www.reddit.com/r/EliteDange...rizons_and_its_included_expansions_the_known/

Please notice: this list has been updated on april, so some things are already out with 2.1

My thread linked at the top of the link abve is not up to date. I have been keeping a little wordpress blog with details here for Horizons and here for ED as a whole.