trading nerf... again??

Karelen

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Ive been collecting up a few good trade routes since gamma. they've been nerfed a few times, with profits dropping significantly (1500 down to around 800 profit per unit). I logged on today and not only were the profits down even further (no more than 300), but many stations are no longer trading the commodities that they were. This is across a number of stations that ive checked so far.

has anyone else experienced this in the last few hours?
 

CatHellsky

CatHellsky
Karelen said:
Ive been collecting up a few good trade routes since gamma. they've been nerfed a few times, with profits dropping significantly (1500 down to around 800 profit per unit). I logged on today and not only were the profits down even further (no more than 300), but many stations are no longer trading the commodities that they were. This is across a number of stations that ive checked so far.

has anyone else experienced this in the last few hours?
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It's not so much a nerf as a fix. Your trade routes may have changed because of their fix. AI was overtrading and causing systems that should be importing commodities to export those same commodities instead. This fix may have altered your current trade route if it existed because of the AI. By the end of tomorrow I'd imagine that it'd be more stable for trading.
 

pdizzle

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Supply and demand my friend. The trade routes that you find can also be figured out by other players. When that station's demand is reduced, the trade route will get less and less viable. That being said I haven't seen any issues, I've had about a 5 hour play session.
 

John Stoutbeard

John Stoutbeard
https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=78860&p=1329547&viewfull=1#post1329547
Michael Brookes said:
From today's server update:

- Fixed a bug that was sometimes causing a market to flip from being a net consumer to a net producer when the AI traders supplied significantly more into that market than the market demands. This will mean that many commodities currently listed at a low level of 'demand' will revert back to the 'not interested' price, as they should have been.

- Fixed a small set of bugs that were working together to cause the AI traders to significantly over supply an import market in a specific set of circumstances.

This bug fix will increase the demand numbers being offered to Commanders for consumed commodities where there isn't a large exporting market nearby supplying that demand.
Where large exporting markets are nearby, the AI traders will now respect their import caps and leave some demand for Commanders.
In that situation, the exporting markets should see a slightly increased level of supply available for Commanders to purchase.

These bug fixes together should also sort out some of the 'backwards' trade route data over the next day or so when the data next update.

For the trading the changes in demand should propagate quickly but for the trade routes may take a day or so. This has uncovered an issue with split markets stacking rather than being netter out, although this effect is minor compared to the previous issue. We'll then record the stats over Christmas to identify what further tweaks are needed.

Michael
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vitch

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Karelen said:
Ive been collecting up a few good trade routes since gamma. they've been nerfed a few times, with profits dropping significantly (1500 down to around 800 profit per unit). I logged on today and not only were the profits down even further (no more than 300), but many stations are no longer trading the commodities that they were. This is across a number of stations that ive checked so far.

has anyone else experienced this in the last few hours?
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There was a server update this afternoon that is aimed at fixing trade logic, with the proviso that it will take a day to even out the AI 'over trade' that has been occurring. https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=83374

My trade notes are all out now, hopefully it will settle down and we can get back to making a few quid.

EDIT: Ninja'd x2 :)
 
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TurtleFreak

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It sounds like supply and demand at work. You and anyone else who found the same trade routes are providing supply so demand is going down. Just one of the reasons I prefer to make my money from exploration instead.
 
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