General / Off-Topic Tricky Trekkie Question
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The Delta quadrant is diagonally opposite the Alpha quadrant, hence the issue with distance.
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See here for more info:
http://memory-alpha.wikia.com/wiki/Delta_Quadrant
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Edit: There's an image of the Delta quadrant showing a grid and where they ended up:
http://www.stdimension.org/int/Cartography/Voyager.htm#overview
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See here for more info:
http://memory-alpha.wikia.com/wiki/Delta_Quadrant
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Edit: There's an image of the Delta quadrant showing a grid and where they ended up:
http://www.stdimension.org/int/Cartography/Voyager.htm#overview
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I bet the crew of Voyager wish they had Frame Shift Drives .. They'd of been home in a couple of days 
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Well they kind of did. The standard warp drive is exactly how the FSD works when travelling in supercruise. Its the hyperspace jump thats different and not very explainable with regard to physics except that it needs to do that in game to allow us to travel about quickly from system to system. Voyager however doesn't have the hyperspace jump type of mode so is stuck in supercruise when doing superluminal speeds. Voyagers maximum speed was warp 9.975 which equated to around 13,500 or so times the speed of light. Pretty fast but they couldn't sustain high warp for very long. (This was a thing that developed over time in the series as in the first episode Lt Stadi stated that its maximum sustainable warp speed was 9.975 but then later they had the ship unable to maintain a speed above 9.9 for more than a few minutes, a story telling mechanism I would say)
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It's Star Trek, don't try to apply actual science to it, you'll hurt yourself or cause a temporal rift or sleep with a green woman...who knows?
Gene never worried about the actual science behind anything, he was about the story, and that continued after his death, the story was the thing, even if meant altering previously established canon.
Gene never worried about the actual science behind anything, he was about the story, and that continued after his death, the story was the thing, even if meant altering previously established canon.
On the contrary. I certainly take your point with Gene, he was a revolutionary trying to get out many many taboo messages in the disguise of a sci fi show, but Star trek (especially from tng on) was renowned for using real scientific theory in its technology unlike pretty much every other sci fi show at the time that preferred to care very little about how things would or could actually work in their world. Now and again the canon was tweaked to allow the story to be told (as ultimately it isn't a documentry) but I think your view of it is way off in that respect. The degree of scientific advisors on the show were far in advance of any other sci fi show ever made in order to establish a believeable universe rather than just go with 'hey its the future guys'. The number of real world tech that has direct ancestry in trek is testament enough. The new movies of course took that book and burned it but hey thats the quest for univesal appeal I suppose.
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As an Engineer I never had a problem with the ships in star trek not being able to sustain their maximum speed for more than a short period of time. I can point to many other technologies we have today that can sustain certain extreme loads for only short periods of time.
Yes also as an engineer I never had a problem with that either. In fact it made it more plausible to me. I had a problem with Stadi saying it could sustain it and then later not being able to do so because the story required it!
IIRC, Voyager did get upgrades along the way so it is not unreasonable that later in the series they are able to sustain a higher speed for a long time (assuming they have the fuel).
Bangs head on wall!!
No in the first episode ever Lt Stadi said '...maximum cruise velocity of warp factor 9.975!' And the accompanying literature also supported this. Later when IIRC the ship was following Tom as he broke the warp 10 barrier and then in many subsequent episodes suddenly the warp 9.9 sustainability limit kicked in. Don't get me wrong I am the biggest Trekkie ever but it makes things like that even more annoying for me because they do 95% of everything else really well and then sneak doozies in!
No in the first episode ever Lt Stadi said '...maximum cruise velocity of warp factor 9.975!' And the accompanying literature also supported this. Later when IIRC the ship was following Tom as he broke the warp 10 barrier and then in many subsequent episodes suddenly the warp 9.9 sustainability limit kicked in. Don't get me wrong I am the biggest Trekkie ever but it makes things like that even more annoying for me because they do 95% of everything else really well and then sneak doozies in!
Correct me if i am wrong, Doesnt "cruise velocity" mean that they can sustain this velocity? So to me that means they can go slightly faster for very short bursts.
Yes I believe thats exactly what I said! However later in the series a slower speed ie warp 9.9 became a limit that the ship couldn't 'cruise' beyond which made no sense except to "slow" that ship down. The series wasn't as bad as it's made out IMO, the new movies are far worse.
And forget about 7of9 [squeeeee] - you must be joking! [wacko]
Thanks for clarifying.
I always thought that the warp speeds used in TNG were much worse than in Voyager. In more than one episode there is some sort of emergency situation and Picard orders the enterprise to change course and head to the new location. Many times he orders a speed that is not very impressive for the Enterprise-D. Warp 4 or 5. Even the original Enterprise could travel at Warp 4. With a Cruising Velocity of Warp 9.2, if it is such an emergency he should have ordered the enterprise to travel at Warp 9.
Wherever they were, they must have had a jump range of less than 10LY, plotted a course for efficiency, stopped and scanned every single icy body they came across, and still gone the long way around.
Also my least favorite Trek series, that one. I liked some of the characters on it but Janeway got on my nerves in a big way with her preaching.
Also my least favorite Trek series, that one. I liked some of the characters on it but Janeway got on my nerves in a big way with her preaching.
It doesn't surprise me at all that a ship capable of 9.975 (if that was the correct number) is only capable of 9.9 after a period of time of constant use due to wear and tear without a major overhaul.