Trucking now trying Bounty Hunter. Question on investment vs income for BH?
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FAS, Challenger, Chieftain territory with 90MCr. Especially if you already have some internals and other things to swap.
I've not actually added up how much per hr BH gives recently but I feel if you are committed 6-7 mil feels right but then I've got 30k+ kills under my belt and a fully pimped Vette.
You might struggle a bit if you are really just starting out.
I've not actually added up how much per hr BH gives recently but I feel if you are committed 6-7 mil feels right but then I've got 30k+ kills under my belt and a fully pimped Vette.
You might struggle a bit if you are really just starting out.
I used a Vulture to great success years ago, but now NPCs can be bullet soaks and chaff spammers, it takes a lot of time to kill.
I found my Python to be fun with an all-MC build but that can be expensive to finish out @160 mill.
I'm like GunnerBill with 30k+ kills and I also have an NPC widow-maker in my rails and MC Corvette. It used to be that trios of elite NPC Anacondas would come out to play, which was great fun for the Corvette, haven't seen that for a while.
If I were you, I would combine BH with Fed rank to eventually get the Corvette. As soon as you can, get an FAS, then work for a Python (which is great for the 180T/2 mill short haul missions that pop up all the time plus can fight). That's how I did it. Not going to happen overnight but it will keep you busy in game for some time.
Good luck.
I found my Python to be fun with an all-MC build but that can be expensive to finish out @160 mill.
I'm like GunnerBill with 30k+ kills and I also have an NPC widow-maker in my rails and MC Corvette. It used to be that trios of elite NPC Anacondas would come out to play, which was great fun for the Corvette, haven't seen that for a while.
If I were you, I would combine BH with Fed rank to eventually get the Corvette. As soon as you can, get an FAS, then work for a Python (which is great for the 180T/2 mill short haul missions that pop up all the time plus can fight). That's how I did it. Not going to happen overnight but it will keep you busy in game for some time.
Good luck.
If you're making 10-25 million a trip, I would trick up the anaconda,
this way, when you have unlocked the corvette, most of the ship parts will be interchangeable.
The corvette is the ultimate ship of Doom (PvE, Once Pimped),
think she needs two more gun hardpoints to bring her in line with some ships. (turrets for when ships stay on your tail)
The Fed Gunship I call a mini Corvette with half the fun and half the cost.
The Krait Phantom once pimped is a good medium multiship/combat ship.
Anyhoo if it`s all about money & return in investment.
10-25 million per trip is hard to make in BH.
Don't do haz res sites do Installatation or mega ship defence. if you can trigger them... pay way more than the low spawning res sites and the targets are insured to be bounty targets spawning and not friendlies as well... unlike res sites that can spawn allied or hostile, all megaship/installation attackers have bounties targets...
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What ships do you have? You could just equip and engineer a ship you already have for bounty hunting, save yourself some creds...??
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BH pays buggerall, if you want to make money then hauling or mining is where it's at. The one thing BH will do for you though is provide a lot more fun, and you should wonder what the purpose of playing Elite is if it isn't to have fun. Save 9/10ths of your cash and buy a small fighter like a Vulture, Viper or DBS. Engineer the sh*t out of it and go pick fights with ships way out of your league and see if you can win. I bounty hunt in my DBS, it's all I do. I make chump change doing it, maybe a couple million per mission at best. The cash doesn't matter though, what am I going to do with all of it anyway?
You will find it hard pressed to top the money you're making right now with bounty hunting; it's the least lucrative Cr/hour in the game (unless you can do stacked wing missions with a squad of killer buddies). It is, however, much more fun IMO than the pick-up, drop-off repeat ad-infinitum of trucking.
Try something like this. It's under 90mill, can kick some botty, and has no engineering so you can play around with that side of things yourself.
Try something like this. It's under 90mill, can kick some botty, and has no engineering so you can play around with that side of things yourself.
Yeah, I heard that the DBS is a great combat ship. And let's not forget that you're gonna pick up loads of manufactured mats when you're bounty hunting, so it's not just about the money and the fun of making other ships explode... you're gonna get mats to engineer your ship so you can make other ships explode much quicker!
BH pays garbage. Mining and Trading are your best bet for credits. But if you're going to do it...
A ) For the most fun : get a Vulture. Small, fast and vicious. And cheap ! DBS runs a close second..
B ) All around-er, and still run other missions : Python. Nothing cool, shiny, or WOW about it. But it can take a beating and give one back. It's arguably the best ship in the game due to it's flexibility : Biggest medium pad hauler, huge PP/PD for the size, plenty of firepower, good shields. Bit more expensive at about 125 million+ starter build. A Krait would work here as well, but the Python is tankier.
C ) An FDL if you're gonna engineer the thing.. Also set you up for PvP later. 90 million would be a good start. Get the asbestos underwear option, you'll need it. Runs hot.
D ) Anaconda is out of your price range.. but that would do the job very nicely. 250 million+ for a combat build. Put the smack down on NPCs all day long.
A ) For the most fun : get a Vulture. Small, fast and vicious. And cheap ! DBS runs a close second..
B ) All around-er, and still run other missions : Python. Nothing cool, shiny, or WOW about it. But it can take a beating and give one back. It's arguably the best ship in the game due to it's flexibility : Biggest medium pad hauler, huge PP/PD for the size, plenty of firepower, good shields. Bit more expensive at about 125 million+ starter build. A Krait would work here as well, but the Python is tankier.
C ) An FDL if you're gonna engineer the thing.. Also set you up for PvP later. 90 million would be a good start. Get the asbestos underwear option, you'll need it. Runs hot.
D ) Anaconda is out of your price range.. but that would do the job very nicely. 250 million+ for a combat build. Put the smack down on NPCs all day long.
Krait Mk2, hands down. More maneuverable and more firepower than a Python. Don't forget the fighter hangar.
The returns on your investment will be great. I made my billions bounty hunting.
Check out my Inara page, and my income over the last week. Bounty hunting.
You're going to want to stack WING Pirate Massacre missions, one mission each from as many different factions as possible, all for the same pirate crew.
I have 20 factions in 3 systems which I am allied with who all give massacre missions for the same pirate org. I can get 35 mil on a single mission, and I stack my mission log with a full 20. Basically this means each kill counts for ~20, or however many missions I have stacked. The WING missions give you a week to complete also.
Eh, what the heck. I'll spill my secrets. I hunt the Ehlanda Blue Posse. I grab missions from Iama Kheph, Aeduwona, and Dounthiassi. Then I go to Ehlanda and hunt the only HazRes there until I've cleared a bunch of missions. I go on a cash-out tour and replace completed missions, rinse, profit, repeat.
There's probably 300-400 million stacked in my missions right now.
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Bloodsign writes:
"I have 20 factions in 3 systems which I am allied with who all give massacre missions for the same pirate org. I can get 35 mil on a single mission, and I stack my mission log with a full 20. Basically this means each kill counts for ~20, or however many missions I have stacked. The WING missions give you a week to complete also."
Are you saying that the one kill for the pirate group counts as one for all of your stacked missions? It was my understanding that stacked missions no longer worked that way.
I'll try it and see.
"I have 20 factions in 3 systems which I am allied with who all give massacre missions for the same pirate org. I can get 35 mil on a single mission, and I stack my mission log with a full 20. Basically this means each kill counts for ~20, or however many missions I have stacked. The WING missions give you a week to complete also."
Are you saying that the one kill for the pirate group counts as one for all of your stacked missions? It was my understanding that stacked missions no longer worked that way.
I'll try it and see.
At 90M, the Alliance or Federal (if you have the money) ships could be a possibility. A fully decked out Mamba or Krait MKII would be nice, but will run between 200...250 MCr (at least mine do, plus the four weeks to get the Pacifiers, plus the trip for the Guardian modules). A Vulture is definitely an option, and what I probably would go for.
Bounty hunting - if you accept the well paying "kill pirate" or "kill terrorist" jobs, you may find yourself pitted against an Anaconda (at least) or a Corvette, for paltry 1.8..2 MCr a pop. Not really worth it for the money. You can make more by hauling passengers around on sightseeing trips.
For strictly local (CNB/HazRes) operations, I might start with something like this Vulture. Yes, the A-rated life support is mandatory. The canopy is the first thing that goes if your Vulture loses its shields, but the A-rated life support will give you 25 minutes of fighting time, and with the Pacifiers, you just have to get close - no real need to aim
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Bounty hunting - if you accept the well paying "kill pirate" or "kill terrorist" jobs, you may find yourself pitted against an Anaconda (at least) or a Corvette, for paltry 1.8..2 MCr a pop. Not really worth it for the money. You can make more by hauling passengers around on sightseeing trips.
For strictly local (CNB/HazRes) operations, I might start with something like this Vulture. Yes, the A-rated life support is mandatory. The canopy is the first thing that goes if your Vulture loses its shields, but the A-rated life support will give you 25 minutes of fighting time, and with the Pacifiers, you just have to get close - no real need to aim
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Vulture or Viper, the prior if you're very green, the latter if youre less so, Vulture has the better stats but it just isnt as fun to fly. (Though I'm sure some will disagree)
Both are super cheap and more than capable of pulling in good money with a bit of practice. Generally I'd advise against getting a medium ship untill you've found your footing in something cheap as it only takes one player with a good setup and a modicum of skill to cost you heavily compared to what you're going to make out of BHing. Thats an issue you wont have in these two ships, the Vulture is 1mil ish to replace, the Viper 3, less than a Cobra new, even with the EPT's fitted.
Both are super cheap and more than capable of pulling in good money with a bit of practice. Generally I'd advise against getting a medium ship untill you've found your footing in something cheap as it only takes one player with a good setup and a modicum of skill to cost you heavily compared to what you're going to make out of BHing. Thats an issue you wont have in these two ships, the Vulture is 1mil ish to replace, the Viper 3, less than a Cobra new, even with the EPT's fitted.
Nope, he's talking waffle. Only counts for the latest mission and given that they dont pay out all that well youre better off just going to a system in Civil unrest and hunting in "Pirate activity detected: Threat X" POIs that will show in these systems, etter money per kill, boosts rep super fast and you'll get a whack ton of G5 materials to boot. Though I don't reccomend in going to them without at least a G3/4 ship as everything in there will also be engineered. Not to G5, but G3/4 on most opposing vessels.
Sorry, Voracity, but you are completely incorrect. Read my post carefully; my method requires taking ONE wing mission each from TWENTY different factions, if possible. Then each kill counts for 20. If you take TWENTY missions from ONE faction, it works as you describe.
Note my notes:
You can see here that I usually only take ONE mission per faction, unless I'm close to finishing a mission, in which case I might grab a second one if a juicy one pops up for me.
Like I said, look at my assets on Inara, +~400 mill over the last week, using this method.
90% of my 3.5 billion was made via bounty hunting. I've only been playing since January.
I play Elite for the combat, and I'm colorblind, so the whole void opals thing never really was a good fit. I found other ways to profit.
Stacking missions from the same broker means that when one is accomplished, one must exit the area (change the instance) then one can return and do the next and the next...
Stacking exact missions from multiple broker's means, accomplishing one accomplish all exact mission simultaneously.
Thus stacking still works, but there's two different procedures to follow.