Trying to discover unexplored planets and stars - Magellan can rest easy :)

Without being a diehard explorer type, I just fancied having a bit of a go and seeing what I could find. Last night I spent the best part of an hour flying around a system's primary star trying to find any other stars or planets - there were several undiscovered stars shown on the system map, but my best efforts turned up nothing.

I did a bit of research and gather I should be looking on the main star's orbit plane, somewhere opposite the main star.... I think part of the problem was that the HUD lines that show the orbit course of the planet (in supercruise) would only display at certain angles and most of the time I couldn't see them at all. Is this a setting I need to change? Or do I need a different method?

I would appreciate your thoughts, Commanders. Thanks.
 
Not clear in the op, but did you first scan the primary star? Target it and point yourself at it till "scanning" appears bottom left of your cockpit. Look for the widest orbital and fly round looking for stars on that line. And yes, the discovery scanner (range is only 500 ls so bing it often)
 
Without being a diehard explorer type, I just fancied having a bit of a go and seeing what I could find. Last night I spent the best part of an hour flying around a system's primary star trying to find any other stars or planets - there were several undiscovered stars shown on the system map, but my best efforts turned up nothing.

I did a bit of research and gather I should be looking on the main star's orbit plane, somewhere opposite the main star.... I think part of the problem was that the HUD lines that show the orbit course of the planet (in supercruise) would only display at certain angles and most of the time I couldn't see them at all. Is this a setting I need to change? Or do I need a different method?

I would appreciate your thoughts, Commanders. Thanks.

Check my video out (thread here) and also this one by talshiarr (thread here).
 
Check my video out (thread here) and also this one by talshiarr (thread here).

Thanks - enjoyed that and very informative. Nice also because it was in my neck of the woods. :)

I don't know why, but when I was trying this last night the orbital rings were not showing, well, hardly showing at all. This was in the 23 Epsilon Cephei system, just out from Aiabiko, I'm wondering if its a weird system because I get the rings elsewhere.
 
I love spotting those moving dots on the star field. Very satisfying when you pick the one you think it should be and you turn out to be correct.

A nice touch of reality is that the colour of the star remains consistent. So if you are looking for a red dwarf you know it will be one of the red stars.
 
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A nice touch of reality is that the colour of the star remains consistent. So if you are looking for a red dwarf you know it will be one of the red stars.

Yup, credit to the team for that.

Things worked out a bit better, I tried a couple of nearby systems and discovered most of what was there, including a couple of pirate bases. But when I went back to 23 Epsion Cephei for another attempt, although I could see the orbital rings clearly, I could not find any more celestial bodies. I think the ring extended something like 130,000 LS from the star at its furthest point, which was quite a long run, and I could find nothing out there.

If a responsible adult happens to be nearby, in the Cigeru/Aiabiko/Chemaku area I'd be interested to know if there's something problematic about the system (23 Epsilon Cephei) or if its just me.

Actually, I was hoping to leave the area in my current Sidewinder, am I right in thinking that if I can get to a star, it will be joined up to my current system on the Galactic map - regardless of how many jumps it would require to get there, or does the program just limit the 'joining up' to a few jumps away from your current position?
 
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As was mentioned, if you're in a system with more than one star it is sometimes a fair distance away and outside the range of the standard scanner. Go to supercruise, speed up a fair bit and see if you can spot a moving point of light - this will usually be planets, stars or other stellar objects.
 
As was mentioned, if you're in a system with more than one star it is sometimes a fair distance away and outside the range of the standard scanner. Go to supercruise, speed up a fair bit and see if you can spot a moving point of light - this will usually be planets, stars or other stellar objects.



Yes, I tried this - but without success. My eyes do get pretty tired by the time I get a chance to play, but I suspect it may just be a tricky system to explore.
 
Sometimes NPCs can give away undiscovered objects. I was in a system containing a neutron Star and a Class B. I only have the intermediate disco scanner (range 1000Ls) The orbit line of the class b went out to about 50,000Ls - went all the way around the orbit line - still no neturon star. Exited the game as it was time to bed. Came back the next day and there was an NPC eagle 250,000Ls away so I headed towards it and it was exploring the neutron star and all its planets :)

Not sure what the orbit line for the class B was doing but it wasn't a binary orbit line that's for sure
 
Finding the 2nd or 3rd star in a multi star system can be quite a bit of a pain, as they are often very far away.

If its a red star then its often quite easy as there are not that many little red dots, jsut fly towards one and see if it moves, then you are on the right way.
Yellow one can be tricky as they are often not that easily to see.

If you are lucky a NPC pops in, then just fly in his direction.

Another clue is when you start to slow down again, that means you are halfway there. :)

I am in the Aiabiko system right now, if I remember tonight I take a look at 23 Epsilon Cephei.
Good that I have again a discovery scanner mounted in my craft. :D
 
Finding the 2nd star is easy as you just need to target the main star and the 2nd star will be on the same plane as the orbit. 3rd stars and above are much more difficult to find.
 
Hehe, i was following a type 6 last night, expecting it to lead me to the secondary star. We flew for about 20 mins at full SC, and then the blighter just jumped out of system, we me still no wiser as to where the secondary was. So just flew straight on until finally saw a dot getting a bit brighter and bigger. Took over 30 mins of flying at max speed though to reach it. Was probably the longest distance i've travelled in SC.

Just a few pointers for the beginner (ie: not in a Cobra like in the linked video - Sidewinder to Hauler level exploration).

1) Get the detailed surface scanner as soon as you can, it really can help net the bigger rewards as until then you can only do a basic scan which isn't worth as much.
2) Don't waste time flying around trying to find more planets or whatever until you have the detailed scanner. Its quicker just to jump/scan/jump/scan - find less per system, but get through a lot more systems a lot quicker.
3) Apparently you get more for scanning systems where nobody else has ever scanned, so jump a bit before starting your exploration. Don't worry though, there are lots of stars. Once you are a few hundred LY out you can be almost sure you will be the only person to have been there unless you get unlucky.
4) Play it safe. You're going to be many LYs distant from the nearest repair. Don't get involved in battles, avoid interdictions like the plague. If you see a yellow dot, you might want to jump out immediately rather than risk an interdiction.
5) Once you have had enough of this, and have got enough money for the Detailed Surface scanner then...
6) It seems like the most valuable scans you can do are of Earthlike worlds and High Metal worlds. There is rumoured to be a bug that makes asteroid belts not worth scanning. Not sure, but they are tedious to do anyway as you need to get close.
7) Earthlike worlds are easy to spot from the system map. Even unscanned they look a bit like earthlike worlds. Always scan these babies.
8) High metal worlds are harder to identify in general because they can appear in different forms on the system view. But they are usually relatively small and closer to the star.
9) This is why it doesn't matter too much that you don't have a better scanner. Sure, you might be missing some gems, but any system with plenty of planets will most likely have the most valuable planets closer to the star. Don't waste your time trying to find remote planets, just grab what you can and move on.
10) Star types and binaries/triples/etc - I've had the best finds around single star systems (and the odd binary with a small distant companion). They are more likely to have planets close to the primary. I've been to many systems with multiple stars where there might be planets but if so, they are around secondaries or far out. Far out planets tends to be Gaseous, Rocky, or Icy... they are not worth as much. Also, if looking for Earthlikes, then you seem to get more with medium-small G type stars. Hmm.. G2V stars are good. G2V... like Sol! Earthlike worlds... like Earth! Could be a connection there :D

Anyway, those are my pointers, they favour speed over detail, but works for me ;)
 

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I think the ring extended something like 130,000 LS from the star at its furthest point, which was quite a long run, and I could find nothing out there.

It is not sufficient to merely go to where the line ends, the line is the entire orbital path of the A star. The B star won't lie upon the line itself.

Finding the 2nd star is easy as you just need to target the main star and the 2nd star will be on the same plane as the orbit. 3rd stars and above are much more difficult to find.

As adoredtv points out you need to specifically target the A star and then look for a star which sits directly on the line of it's orbit (from your point of view). Once you've found it you need to head in that direction and continue to do so after you have travelled past the orbital line of the A star. The distance you will have to travel is generally slightly more than double the distance you travelled to go past the orbital line of the A star as stars will orbit along their shared centre of gravity so if you had to travel 130,000 LS to get to the point you crossed that line you can expect the B star to be at least that distance again.

Additional stars can often be tricky to find but if all else fails head off in a random direction for maybe 100,000 LS (more if necessary) and then turn around to face the stars that you've already found and it'll likely be easier to see the movement of these missing stars in relation to the stars you've already found as you head back towards them.
 
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Been to 23 Epsilon Cephei yesterday.
Seems its a binary system without any plantes.

The second star is some 250.000 LS away from the entry point into the system. :)
 
Been to 23 Epsilon Cephei yesterday.
Seems its a binary system without any plantes.

The second star is some 250.000 LS away from the entry point into the system. :)

That's Above and Beyond, Jamie - thanks! Relatively speaking, is that a "flipping long way out" for a binary?


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Thx guyz for advice about two stars system. Flying to widest orbital works.
Look how far the second star can be =) It takes me about 20 minutes to find it.
Damn, new users can't post images =(

Pegasi Sector NN-T C3-8
2nd star is Pegasi Sector NN-T C3-8 A - 396,244Ls (too far away)
There u can find 3rd and 4th stars.
 
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