Twisted Galactic Plane

Guys..Devs?

Will the recent news on the discovery that the milky way's galactic disc is not actually flat but twisted be incorporated into the game?

Courtney Rogue
 
I wonder if it’s actually twisted or just apparently twisted given the light from the far side of the galaxy takes many thousands of years more to reach us than the light from the near side, which would make the far side objects appear to be in a different position than it actually is, and more exaggerated than it would be for the side nearest you.
 
I wonder if it’s actually twisted or just apparently twisted given the light from the far side of the galaxy takes many thousands of years more to reach us than the light from the near side, which would make the far side objects appear to be in a different position than it actually is, and more exaggerated than it would be for the side nearest you.

The shape is real, light travel time isn't a factor here. It only takes light ~100k years to cross the entire galaxy, but the motions that affect the overall shape of the galaxy play out over tens to hundreds of millions of years. For scale, it takes Sol about 230 million years to make one orbit around the galaxy.
 
Image, and links to article in this thread for reference.

Will be amazing to see this when it's re-done with a larger sample. And count me in on requesting an update to the shape in game!
 
Yes, FDev will obviously fix this and incorporate this into the game. Definitely gonna happen.[wacky]
 
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Guys..Devs?

Will the recent news on the discovery that the milky way's galactic disc is not actually flat but twisted be incorporated into the game?

Courtney Rogue

It would require re-evolving the galaxy from first principals using a new seed and it would probably, in fact I think of necessity because all the star locations will change, also require a complete wipe of all the work that has been done by CMDRS. So, blank galaxy, start again everyone. I suggest the answer is no.
 
What if it’s not twisted...

Just here me out here.... my wild theory!

So, what if the twisting is actually caused by the volume of hidden black holes (o) lensing the galaxy, with accretion discs giving the impression the galaxy twists beyond the perceived galactic plane and is not really where we see it at all?!

🧐
 
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What if it’s not the galaxy,it’s us.
What I guess I’m saying is we’re all bent.
In celebration of this revelation can the store now include cowboy hats,feather boas and leather chaps?
 
I believe the celestial positions are baked in by now. Any significant changes like that would likely require a regeneration of the entire galaxy by a new procedural generation algorithm and would wipe everything the devs have hand-placed in the galaxy to date. Which is a significant amount of work to just throw away.

Like, 10's of thousands of hours of development time wasted....
 
The shape is real, light travel time isn't a factor here. It only takes light ~100k years to cross the entire galaxy, but the motions that affect the overall shape of the galaxy play out over tens to hundreds of millions of years. For scale, it takes Sol about 230 million years to make one orbit around the galaxy.

So the galaxy is moving at 1.3 million miles an hour (although relative to what is a good question). So when light leaves one end of the galaxy and travels in a straight(ish) line to the other side... the other side isn't there anymore. It would be:1138.8 trillion (193ly) miles displaced.

So the light we see from the other side of the galaxy is light that started directed towards the point 193ly from where the galaxy was when it left if you follow me. So if the galaxy is moving "up" the light from teh other side of the galaxy actually came from 193ly below us.

It's a bit like Andromeda looks skewed to us because the light arriving from it's closest edge arrives 100s of thousands of years before the light leaving it's farthest edge and as it's rotating it appears distorted.

However in relation to the original question, I believe astronomers would have accounted for this.
 
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So the galaxy is moving at 1.3 million miles an hour (although relative to what is a good question). So when light leaves one end of the galaxy and travels in a straight(ish) line to the other side... the other side isn't there anymore. It would be:1138.8 trillion (193ly) miles displaced.

So the light we see from the other side of the galaxy is light that started directed towards the point 193ly from where the galaxy was when it left if you follow me. So if the galaxy is moving "up" the light from teh other side of the galaxy actually came from 193ly below us.

It's a bit like Andromeda looks skewed to us because the light arriving from it's closest edge arrives 100s of thousands of years before the light leaving it's farthest edge and as it's rotating it appears distorted.

However in relation to the original question, I believe astronomers would have accounted for this.

That 1.3 million MPH figure (about 500 km/s in more reasonable units, or a bit under 0.002c) is the orbital speed of Sol around the galactic center. The out-of-plane component of that velocity is much smaller. In the case of Sol, 7 km/s, which is typical for an object in the galactic plane - since otherwise the object pretty soon wouldn't be anymore! So yes, the far side of the galaxy will have rotated a couple hundred light years by the time the light reaches us, but any given star is unlikely to have moved more than a dozen LY perpendicular to the plane in that time.

At any rate, yes, this is accounted for in modern astrometrics, and I would be quite surprised if it wasn't done in this paper too.
 
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